Hi everyone,

Currently looking at either a Pixel 8 or a S23 as a replacement for my Zenfone 8 that is slowly becoming a hindrence due to (primarily) the battery. I would replace it, but as it costs a lot to do that here and I have needs for a non-compromised water protection DIY feels like a dangerous option.

So S23 vs Pixel 8, what would you guys recommend assuming I can get either for the same price?

I like the S23 hardware a bit better on paper, but as Pixel phones generally are very flashable my anti-Google sentiments might (ironically) push me there.

I would get a fairphone 5 for the hot-swappable battery etc if they weren’t so expensive for what you get, and as Im buying second hand reuse is better for the environment anyways.

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      9 months ago

      I read about that on the graphene forum, i wouldn’t mind waiting a few seconds for a higher level of security

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        9 months ago

        No, not at all.

        I am on Secureblue now on my Laptop, which also takes way longer to start. This is a different thing, but in general, “performance improvements” are often dangerous security drawbacks.

        Like this Zygote thing in Android where all Apps share some memory parts or the layout or whatever (already forgot it) which makes them similar to each other and predictable for memory exploits.

        On Linux there is something like “zero trust randomization” which increases startup time, because the OS doesnt trust the hardware to do good randomization and instead does it itself.

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          9 months ago

          That quick startup on Linux and just how much faster it is in general. Then centralized OS systems is why I switched.

          I’ve never heard of the zygote thing, it’s a Android service? Or a shared Android process?