• ExFed@lemm.ee
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    13 days ago

    Non-sarcastic reply:

    Horseshoe theory isn’t so much about “the far-left is the same as the far-right” as it is about “all authoritarians derive power from the same human instincts” and the further left or right you go, the more authoritarian you have to be in order to social achieve the narrative you’re aiming for.

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      13 days ago

      Horseshoe theory is widely panned. Its just a centrist insult masquerading as a politcai theory.

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      13 days ago

      Um… no, I don’t think so.

      The problem authoritarians have is that they’re just not that popular, so to be relevant at all, they must cloak their ideas in the language of the progressive. They must pretend to be something they’re not.

      I mean, I’m not saying being very strongly opinionated doesn’t lead to some authoritative rule-whipping, but I wouldn’t call that Authoritarianism. Authoritarianism is more like narcissist behavior.

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      13 days ago

      to me , left vs right is about wanting to do good to other people and helping them be themselves vs controlling them by force if necessary. This whole political ideology mess is just stupid and confusing. It doesnt do good to my worldview though.

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        13 days ago

        Historically, the Left is made up of the progressive class interests, while the right is made up of the regressive, or “reactionary” class interests. Wanting to progress beyond our current Mode of Production to a more collective one is Leftist, while pining for “the good old days” and seeking to turn the clock back, so to speak, is right wing.

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      13 days ago

      This is just wishy washy vibes though. Historically fascism has risen from the interests of the Capitalist class and Communism has risen from the interests of the working class. Moreover, Communists have historically supported liberatory anti-colonialist movements, such as in Algeria and Palestine, Cuba and South Africa, while fascists have historically supported ever-more agressive colonialism. I suggest you read Blackshirts and Reds by Dr. Michael Parenti, it’s a witty read with intense historical rigor.

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        13 days ago

        I think you’re actually missing the point. Horseshoe theory doesn’t say left and right want the same things or have the same motivations, it’s more like saying all armies need boots and weapons no matter what they’re fighting for.