Crosspost: https://feddit.de/post/8502102

Element for Android doesn’t support searching in encrypted channels and I think you can’t use E2EE in the browser at all(?), plus basically every other client has even more drawbacks when it comes to E2EE.

My team recently tried RocketChat, but E2EE is obviously an afterthought for that project as it has even more limitations than non-Element Matrix clients (no searching, no pinning, no file upload, no edit, etc.). Plus Jitsi integration seems to be buggy right now (at least on my Windows installation).

What else is out there that’s not on my radar? Is Matrix with Element really the best option right now? Is there no project that puts E2EE above all else?

Edit: Should be self-hostable and (FL)OSS.

  • Lemmchen@feddit.deOP
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    1 year ago

    Not really what I am looking for. Neither is it self-hostable, nor do you have access to independent clients. Plus the requirement for phone numbers makes it undesirable.
    Also, I’m not really looking for a simple messenger and more for something that is useful in organizing a team.

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      1 year ago

      Are you saying you want encrypted text chat? Or do you want voice or video too?

      I wouldn’t obsess too much about e2ee once there are that many client os’s and apps involved, if the server is self hosted. There will be plenty of other points of vulnerability regardless, including careless humans at the endpoints. It’s not really possible to achieve security by just choosing the right software. Real opsec is much more complicated.

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      1 year ago

      What do you mean by “independent clients” - multi device login?

      There’s Wire, but it still resembles Signal more than Slack. But apparently they’ve put some work into making it self-hostable.

      https://docs.wire.com/versions/install-with-poetry/index.html

      Matrix is still probably the closest thing to Slack, Discord etc that actually has functioning E2EE, but also includes cloud synchronization when people can remember their keys.