As a consequence, have a person’s kids taken away? Or should there be any consequences?

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I’m straightforward and don’t want to give any ‘fluff’ So I don’t know how else to ask this question without it sounding rage baity.

This isn’t a gotcha or trap to argue with anyone I feel and believe I can learn something of value from people I disagree with. It is interesting to know why you disagree and what reasons make you feel x y and z about things.

I’m here to listen, not judge or throw around name calling or fight with you. You feel the way you do for whatever reason, and I want to know a little more about why you do and that is it.

I would like for everyone to feel confident voicing how they feel about this question. I don’t care if I disagree with you. Fighting with you is not how I’d like to spend my evening. I’m sure you don’t either.

I might ask follow ups like, “Why is it that you feel that way?” Or “can you tell me a little bit more” so I can understand your point of view better. And that’s it.

If that feels too much or you don’t want to. Totally fine. Just ignore my comment to you.

Thanks for your time.

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    A child doesn’t have the capacity to foresee the consequences of such a decision.

    IMO you as a parent should respect their wishes when it comes to clothing, hairstyle, etc. no matter what gender stereotype it follows or which sex the child was born at. In an ideal society a child could grow up and be treated like the gender they identify with even if it doesn’t fit their physical body. If they still want to transition upon reaching adulthood, that’s fine of course.

    Actually, in an ideal society, sex and gender simply shouldn’t matter at all, legally. There should be no gender assigned to your identity and no law should make a difference between men and women. Special protections and rules must of course still be made for people who are pregnant, or victims of certain types of abuse, and requirements for some roles in the army can be set to a standard that most women wouldn’t reach, if that is necessary for the role.

    Source: I desperately wanted to be a girl when I was 5. Now I’m an adult heterosexual cis man, married to a woman, and very glad that I can become a father.

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      “I had a single experience when I was 5 so now I feel like I can speak over and on behalf of trans people about them not really knowing what’s best for them”

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        When a person says “I experienced this”, that does not imply “I can speak for everyone who has experienced this”.

        It simply doesn’t. That’s too big a jump, from what was said, to something else not said. Why do that? It doesn’t help communication at all.

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      Actually, in an ideal society, sex and gender simply shouldn’t matter at all, legally.

      a) we’re not in an ideal society, and b) some forms of dysphoria have nothing to do with gender, and are related to the physicality of the bodies we inhabit, and even in an “ideal” society, trans folk would still need to navigate this.

      Source: I desperately wanted to be a girl when I was 5

      Source, I desperately wanted to be a girl when I was 5. Because of the ignorance/transphobia of society, I was forced through a puberty that has forever changed my body in ways that still bring me pain and discomfort decades later. I was finally able to access social and medical transition later in life, but doing so has had huge financial and social consequences that have set me on the back foot compared to my peers, and it still didn’t bring me the childhood I was denied.

      IMO you as a parent should respect their wishes when it comes to clothing, hairstyle, etc. no matter what gender stereotype it follows or which sex the child was born at