As a consequence, have a person’s kids taken away? Or should there be any consequences?

****PLEASE READ

I’m straightforward and don’t want to give any ‘fluff’ So I don’t know how else to ask this question without it sounding rage baity.

This isn’t a gotcha or trap to argue with anyone I feel and believe I can learn something of value from people I disagree with. It is interesting to know why you disagree and what reasons make you feel x y and z about things.

I’m here to listen, not judge or throw around name calling or fight with you. You feel the way you do for whatever reason, and I want to know a little more about why you do and that is it.

I would like for everyone to feel confident voicing how they feel about this question. I don’t care if I disagree with you. Fighting with you is not how I’d like to spend my evening. I’m sure you don’t either.

I might ask follow ups like, “Why is it that you feel that way?” Or “can you tell me a little bit more” so I can understand your point of view better. And that’s it.

If that feels too much or you don’t want to. Totally fine. Just ignore my comment to you.

Thanks for your time.

  • snooggums@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    !00% disagree that a single doctor’s recommendation should ever be required to be followed, because sometimes doctors are wrong. That is why there are second opinions and ultimately it is the patient’s choice even if two doctors agree. People with extremely rare conditions being forced to have a specific treatment that they know isn’t working would be abuse.

    • Mario_Dies.wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      9 months ago

      !00% disagree that a single doctor’s recommendation should ever be required to be followed, because sometimes doctors are wrong. That is why there are second opinions and ultimately it is the patient’s choice even if two doctors agree

      Yes, but I didn’t want to get into all that because what type of insufferable pedant would demand so much detail in a casual forum? We can assume this. We’re not writing a thesis on medical care ffs.

      being forced to have a specific treatment

      Good thing no one is talking about being forced.

      Redditeur detected. Blocking engaged.

      • snooggums@kbin.social
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        9 months ago

        If not following through on the treatment is abuse, then of course that would make the treatment forced.

    • MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@kbin.social
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      9 months ago

      That is why there are second opinions and ultimately it is the patient’s choice even if two doctors agree.

      I 100% agree with this, but it wasn’t the question.

      The question was whether parents can override the choice of patient when the patient’s choice is supported by a doctor’s recommendation. And more specifically, whether parents can deny a reversible puberty delaying hormone treatment against the patient’s wishes and force the patient to undergo puberty against their will.