• RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Don’t know about Ruby Ridge I’ll read up.

    But Waco is not in the same ballpark. Sure the US alphabetAgencies should get better at de-escalation.

    However comparing a guy why soldered some circuit boards on a flea market and handled a website to a religious cult that was armed to the teeth, who refused to surrender to the police in a 50+ day siege and had prepped their own compound with flammables.

    The shooting of dogs while conducting raids is just plain evil.

    Edit: holy moly, the ruby ridge thing started with a fuckup of law enforcement, shooting a dog and its owner in the back. Claiming they identified themselves as law enforcement but dressed in CAMO and armed while on their property. No wonder it led to outrage.

    This is the same as “castle defense/stand your ground/etc.” vs “no knock warrants” how in the hell can you convict someone for shooting at armed intruders in your house? Even if they are yelling at you… this just adds to the confusion.

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      9 months ago

      a religious cult that was armed to the teeth, who refused to surrender to the police in a 50+ day siege and had prepped their own compound with flammables.

      That’s all very likely propaganda spread by the FBI after shit went down. Incidentally these two collosal fuck ups is what inspired the unibomber.

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        9 months ago

        Yea, they were a bit cultish, but most of the propaganda definitely came after the fact/during. I remember thinking “where the hell did this cult stuff come from suddenly?” It had all been in the news for a year before Reno? and Clinton had those people murdered.

        And even if they were cultish, none of the PR justifies the feds actions.

        And if you haven’t read the Unabombers manifesto… Let’s just say it’ll expose how much the government lies about this stuff.