I’ve been trying Linux Mint on my old dell laptop with an nvidia GPU and it’s been just one impossible issue after the other.

Even games that have native linux versions like Valheim don’t run if I’m running off the GPU (but run if i switch to the integrated intel gpu but with terrible performance). Some games that work with proton work fine but have tons of weird issues like not being able to type specific characters on the keyboard, or the game and the entire OS just randomly freezing after 15-20 minutes - it happened in both warframe and guild wars 2 for example. Every time it happened I had to do a hard reboot since it was completely unresponsive.

I tried installing bottles and couldn’t get through the basic setup of the GOG launcher without getting black screens in it. There were some workarounds with no-sandbox launch arguments at one point but I think I eventually gave up on it. Steam had tons of issues with launchers freezing, or steam itself getting stuck on constant shader updates every day I start the game.

I tried changing proton versions, installing wine and lutris manually, changing nvidia drivers (randomly trying other one since there’s no useful info online about which to pick or which ones even work…) and it never got to a satisfactory point. I still have no idea which drivers im supposed to be using (if it’s not the recommended ones that come with Mint), or how to properly update them manually.

I’ve had steam somethines just not run at all, I run it and nothing happens. I see it in the process manager, kill it ,restart it… it gets the temporary update popup and then disappears with no error message whatsoever.

I actually own a steam deck and I never had any major issues with it, so my only conclusion is that this time it’s the fault of either linux mint (which is supposed to be the stable, no-nonsense OS), or the different hardware - probably the GPU.

So yeah… is the conclusion wrong, or is it really simply pointless to try linux with nvidia?

    • Heratiki@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      Man I haven’t heard about Manjaro in a LOOONG time. Guess I need to look back into it.

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        9 months ago

        It’s got some bad press but it works fine for my needs. I keep meaning to check out Endeavour since people say it’s a better implementation of the same core concept, but I’m lazy and not much of a distrohopper.

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    9 months ago

    I have nvidia, and I can’t use any other proton version that is higher than ge-7.50. It’s probably a software issue, but I can still play many games, both new and old. I have gtx 1060 6GB. Using Zorin OS.

    Oh, sometimes, the driver update gets stuck, and I have to use a command (dpkg --configure -a) to resume it after a system reboot.

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      9 months ago

      I have the same card, and I had the same issue with Proton GE (well I don’t remember which version exactly). Then I tried the latest version a couple months ago and it worked flawlessly.

      Never had that driver update issue myself.

      Linux Mint btw. For kicks I updated to the much newer kernel version instead of the default LTS, and despite expectations everything works great with that too.

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    9 months ago

    Short answer: no. I’m using Linux Mint with an Nvidia card and it works great. From the games you’ve mentioned I’ve played Guild Wars 2 and Warframe with zero problems, they actually ran like on Windows where I had them installed before. Steam, Heroic Games Launcher, Bottles, Lutris - they all work fine for me.

    Also some of the issues you’re describing don’t sound like a typical GPU problem. But sure, try a different distro, maybe your particular hardware setup doesn’t play nice with Mint.

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    9 months ago

    @Kaldo

    On my laptop, everything pretty much works fine, even with nvidia gpu, so it ‘can’ work.

    Can you provide more information about the laptop and GPU model, and the driver you used?

    If your card is still supported by nvidia, I’d try to use the latest proprietary driver ‘nvidia-dkms’. It should ensure the driver’s playing well with your kernel.

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    9 months ago

    It’s possible that the issue you’re running into is with Proton and not your GPU. My anecdote is that running Ubuntu 22 LTS (which Linux Mint, Pop! OS, etc. are all based on) with my 3060 has always worked just fine—usually for machine learning and video rendering. I’m not a gamer, but the occasional Minecraft session does get the GPU kicking.

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      Sadly Minecraft is very much CPU dependent over GPU. When you really start cranking down hard on the GPU with Proton you’re really hoping everything just works out without showing any cracks. With Nvidia’s lack of true Linux support it makes Proton pretty tough to get right.

      There is always hoping though!

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    9 months ago

    Try a different distro? Linux mint wouldn’t output display on my Nvidia laptop but Ubuntu worked just fine.

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    9 months ago

    I’m on EndeavourOS and it works without issues. I’m using a 3070TI, maybe older cards are more troublesome? Like others have said, I’d give other distros a try.

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    Running Fedora 38 on both desktop and laptop, both former Windows machines with NVIDIA GPU (laptop has the intel IGPU and NVIDIA DGPU). I’ve been able to run every single game I’ve tried (Elden Ring, Mass Effect Andromeda, Starcraft 2, Sea of Thieves, etc) using Steam+Proton. In some cases Proton GE was required, and on the laptop there was a special proton launch argument required for Elden Ring to work. Additionally, on Wayland there is one specific issue being worked on (explicit sync) that does cause some annoyance, flickering apps etc. But it feels like NVIDIA is catching up in terms of Linux compatibility, hang in there!

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      9 months ago

      Same. 2080ti. Nobara gives me an almost perfect experience. Every single games works great.

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    9 months ago

    Please let us know if changing distros did the trick, I really hope it does, good luck!

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      9 months ago

      Well, valheim now works straight out of the box on Pop_OS so that’s an improvement! Haven’t downloaded other games so not sure about that just yet though, still setting up my usual programs now.

      On the other hand I kinda hate its GUI, I installed that gnome extension to make the toolbars customizeable and now it just crashes every once in a while, for example just few minutes ago alt-tab stopped working and everything minimalized and became unresponsive so I had to force shut it off. An hour ago I closed the laptop lid and when I reopened it later, the OS woke up to the login screen but everything was frozen and I couldn’t do anything. It’s a bit of a cursed OS, you can’t even click the folder path to copy the path, I miss mint lol.

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        I have some issues with alt tabbing while running some full screen games, but not sure what is causing that. It doesnt happen often so it doesnt bother me, but its not even that bad as you described.

        you can’t even click the folder path to copy the path

        You can if you press CTRL+L

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    9 months ago

    Nvidia is shit on linux. It works if you’re lucky or know what you’re doing but dont expect anything to work oob.

    If anyone ever needs to decide if amd or nvidia on linux, its amd 11/10.

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      9 months ago

      Just a disclaimer: nVidia works great on SUSE / OpenSUSE. nVidia hosts their own repo to support SUSE, OpenSuse, (and maybe REL?) Since it is an nVidia package it works great and the nVidia configuration GUI app gives you granular control

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        9 months ago

        Nvidia also works great on windows. But I want neither suse nor windows. What I want is a driver that doesnt need 10s of hours of tinkering.

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      9 months ago

      Nonsense. I ran NVidia for years before I upgraded to to a newish AMD card. Not perfect but it absolutely works even for gaming as my many many hours of KSP can attest.

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        9 months ago

        Thats the most „it works for me so its fine“ take I‘ve seen in a long time.

        There are fixes for most games in protondb titled „if you have an nvidia card“.

        Astonishing how many completely out of touch comments happen on lemmy. „Confidently incorrect“ gets a new renaissance.

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          9 months ago

          Then your take is equivalent to: “it does not work for me so it is shite.”

          Utterly devoid of meaning, vague and useless.

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    I have had zero issues with nVidia on multiple Leap machines. nVidia works great on SUSE / OpenSUSE since nVidia hosts their own repo to support SUSE, OpenSuse, (and maybe REL?) Since it is an nVidia package it works as expected and the nVidia configuration GUI app gives you granular control

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    Not my experience at all. Running :

    • Ubuntu 23.10
    • NVIDIA 525.147.05
    • latest Steam stable (1705108172) with latest Proton

    and I have been playing “flat” and VR games with no tinkering for years now. I honestly spent at most 1h on drivers or compatibility since I bought my desktop. In fact thinking back I probably spent more time on Windows years ago than now.

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          I mean… “Linux” is just a Kernel XD “is Linux Mint unusable with Nvidia” may be more accurate.

          But I dont know, to my knowledge Xorg and old GPUs should work. But I even get amdgpu errors on Fedora.