there’s more than shown here and it’s more than just these users too 😭
if you find the thread don’t piss in the popcorn (brigade) but also please maybe don’t bring it back here i don’t want 400 notifications of entry level “is almond milk milk” vegan discourse
Found the carnist
no u
I would just like to bring up that most equestrians don’t farm their horses milk. Without demand it would probably be similar
Reading that kinda hurts my brain
What’s the causal link between that comment being created and your brain hurting? Brains have hurt since before comment sections existed.
disagree, comment sections are the literal antichrist
I concede.
That’s why I have headaches every day
Ah yeah, I’ve had an interaction with that anti-vegan user before, and let me tell ya, if you want to speedrun vegan bingo… ideal discussion partner right there.
politely raises hand
While I think factory farming is abhorrent, I find the most compelling reasons to eat plant-based to be the environmental ones. Therefore, I think “I only eat a little bit of meat” is actually a huge positive step someone can take. If your primary concern regarding meat is the cruelty of taking the life of another animal, that’s completely valid, but compared to the others, that square just feels out of place.
It took me a whole 24 hours to realise that the person having a weird, inconsistent, fact-swerving argument with me (about my assertion that most male cattle are killed young for meat) was the original one from the screenshot!
My last time talking to them, they were arguing that the use of the word “exploitation” in the vegan society’s definition of veganism simply meant “use” because that’s a thesaurus entry for exploitation. When their argument breaks down they go full on “words are just invented”.
When their argument breaks down they go full on “words are just invented”.
that never happened
I found the comment chain. Nuts. They always pick and the weirdest stuff to argue over.
The happy animals one is hilarious. I would have no problem with someone eating me after I died and I sure as shit am not happy
Ah yes. That one is the one where every interlocutor happens to only eat meat “from their uncles farm with 3 cows on 40 acres of pasture, where they’re hand-scrubbed by cherubs while eating figs.”
and the cows only die of old age and untreatable disease…
Aw man I fucked that up. My uncle has 40 cows on 3 acres that get hand scrubbed by figs while eating cherubs.
So we’re not getting hand milked by 40 cows while getting figged by 3 cherubs.
I don’t care about my corpse after I’m dead, but I do somewhat disagree with getting killed.
Either way, it would be really hard to voice my opinion
But would you want to … get … Milked?
Sorry
Yes please
Yes
You wouldn’t drink Valmond milk?
Best milk ever, from a non suffering animal who enjoy consensually sharing it too.
That link is a really cool resource, thanks!
I’m not antivegan
Unequivocally, yes you are, and at that, you’re one of the most agonizingly stubborn and disinformed ones I’ve ever talked to.
I’m the authority in my own beliefs, and I am not antivegan
You sure love to argue against points that you perceive as supporting veganism, though!
i only argue against specious claims. I think there are fine reasons to choose to be vegan.
You sure love to argue against posts that you perceive as supporting veganism. You spent a whole day arguing against “most male cows are killed for meat before adulthood”!
you don’t know what my perception is. you can only speak to your own.
your link shows the same as the op thread: I’m primarily interested in a factual, scientifically accurate discussion.
My link shows that you’re interested in muddying the waters by either intentionally spreading disinformation or by speaking with absolute confidence about subjects you clearly lack the capacity to understand even the most fundamental principles of.
anyone can read it and see i grasp the subject, and reject unscientific work.
You grasp the subject so much that you’re too fucking stupid to understand the most basic facets of supply and demand that a literal 10-year-old could understand. lmao okay
I’m still unsure whether they actually believe what they are saying makes any kind of sense and could actually be deemed a rational thought or whether they are just pulling our legs. Either way, engaging in any kind of discussion with them should probably just be avoided
Educated stupid
The “Vegans are loud and annoying” crowd are more loud and annoying than actual vegans in my personal experience.
So true. I’m not vegan, but someone proudly yelling about how much meat they eat is so fucking cringe. Very “suck it, libs” mindset.
But you probably won’t get called a murderer 20 seconds into the discussion though.
You’d be surprised. Both “The farming of your plants kills more animals than livestock raising” and “veganism is genocide because they’ll stop breeding the animals if we stop eating them” unironocally come up almost instantly when I talk about it and I’m not even quite vegan, I just avoid animal products because of allergies to a lot of them…
Often when society had an extreme default position on a topic, its defenders sound batshit insane.
See:
- Gay and trans rights
- Reproductive rights
- Veganism
- Unregulated capitalism
- Homelessness
I’m not even sure if that bingo is supposed to be pro-vegan or anti-vegan …
When I was a young vegling, I spent some time doing “outreach” on r/DebateAVegan (air quotes because it often felt about as impactful as having a wank), and you’d see those bingo arguments being used earnestly ALL THE TIME.
I actually did occasionally get some fairly novel and thought provoking stuff, from time to time, but mostly it was explaining the basics of biology or econ to people like in OP’s example.
Just curious, does a community like that exist here on lemmy? I do have some questions that aren’t answered by the vegan bingo and would love to ask someone, but going straight to !vegan@lemmy.ml feels kinda intrusive
!vegan@lemmy.ml specifically disallows debate style posts. Your best bet is probably either !askvegans@lemmy.ca or !vegan@lemmy.world
I’ll say as someone who mods !vegan@lemmy.world that we’re really not a debate community either. It’s not like it’s disallowed per se (especially within the context of “would two vegans be likely to agree about this?”), but I talk about some of the philosophy behind Rule 5 here and why it’s therefore discouraged.
Yeah, thank you for the clarification. Re-reading my comment, I realise I didn’t do a very good job of expressing this, as I didn’t mean to imply V@LW was a community for debate. Just that a polite question might be fine there, so long as it comes from a genuine desire to learn, instead of trying to make an opening to disagree.
My main problem is when people are aggressively trying to make me feel guilty about just living.
35 points for Ravenclaw for the provision of the vegan bingo.
TIL there’s a bingo TLD.
It looks like there are a few ISPs, countries, and general blacklists that block them. Explains why my firewall and DNS filters are catching it. Oh well. I can look more into fixing it later if it really becomes an issue.
It also seems to just generally be slow sometimes. This time it loaded instantly but often it takes a couple of tries and a good amount of patience lol
Imagine answering a question with another question.
I’d ask if everyone here is just looking to be annoyed at the slightest thing but it shows, like, all around
I know right? /s
I like cow milk with My coffee.
“Loncoleche the hace bien”
- loncoleche.
would love to know what this means
💃
I’ve seen what I know as “te” today written “the” more than once by a seeming native Spanish speaker (I’m not one). Do you know if that’s a dialect, trend, autocorrect from people who use English a lot, or something else?
Probably the last thing.
Is almond milk milk tho?
only if hot dogs are sandwiches
Fuck you and happy cake day
bwahahaha thanks i didn’t even notice
Hot dogs are tacos.
cube rule propaganda gets downvote on principle
Disparaging the cube rule gets downvoted on principle.
^^ this mf calls a steak a part of the salad catagory everyone point and laugh
Hotdog are basically lazy subways, therefore, they are sandwiches.
Don’t show me that stupid diagram. Nice meme but I can’t comprehend people unironically use that as real reference for how foods are categorized.
THANK YOU all my homies HATE the “cube rule” stupid asf
Technially i don’t call it milk, because you can’t milk an almond or a soybean or a oat
Nut juice.
Edit: 🍆💦
Get that shit out of here, always curdling when I put it in anything…
Oat milk then!
Yes.
However, we should clarify that all breast milk is breast milk on the store label to prevent confusion.
Someone who identifies as an almond can also have breasts
I milk oats
Damn, I didn’t make the screenshot.
make no mistake being in this thread is not a mark of honor lmao
Wanna swap?
Mr. President there has been another cat food incident
a second low-tier vegan talking point has hit the servers
this is 1/100th of the insanity that happened on the reddit sub r/milk
I’m pretty sure there was a riot because the mods said almond milk was allowed or something like thatI love drinking almond milk right from the almond nipple
Vegan cat food
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We got a fresh copypasta before GTA VI
Guys, stop downvoting this person, technically theyre right even if they are wrong by a couple of decades.
Yyeah but if their definistion of “fresh” includes the navy seals copypasta, then by god don’t let them sell milk
Well, now I feel 20 years older, lol
This copypasta is closer to GTA IV than GTA VI on the timeline.
Fantastic 🤌
I’m gonna need you to crop your memes my guy. This is a violation.
the joke is the bad crop/wall of text
Production do be existing cause of demand tho
Exhibit A: Cheese.
It took me way too long to admit that the poster was talking about production as in “is being produced by nature without human interference” and not “humans produce it because humans want it”
Ohhhh. Thanks
that is not what i was saying
Then what the heck were you saying? That a family might keep a couple goats around? Because I think that still counts as demand.
Naw, they think that a reduction in demand would not reduce supply. As to why anyone would keep making production levels of milk to rot away with no buyers? They need to see it to believe it.
