• fulg@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    To be fair, USB-C didn’t exist when Lightning was introduced, and it was vastly superior to Micro-USB.

    It doesn’t really have any reason to exist now…

    Agreed with your other points though!

    I have an old iPad that I try to reuse for another purpose and all the locks to stop me to keep using it make it such a pain in the butt, when the alternative is simply to enable developer mode on an Android tablet.

    Thankfully I remembered when buying a laptop and skipped the very enticing M-series hardware, because in 5-7 years that thing is a brick destined for the landfill.

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      10 months ago

      Tbh I would have preferred lighting to become the universal standard. It feels better and makes more sense.

      Edit since people can’t think: obviously, I mean, if it would be updated to modern speeds

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          10 months ago

          Are you telling me that an 11 year old connector doesn’t hold up to midern standards? Obviously, i meant if it also would get updates, there are also USB-C cabels that are technically inferior to modern cables.

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            10 months ago

            So basically you would want every device to use a nonexistent updated lightning just because “it feels better”? Are you aware that lightning is a proprietary connector?

            Additionally, USB-C debuted only two years later than lightning, so age is no excuse here.

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              10 months ago

              Additionally, USB-C debuted only two years later than lightning, so age is no excuse here.

              but then please also compare 2014 USB-C to Lightning and not 2024 USB-C > youre also not comparing Mini-B (from 1998 with USB 1.1) to USB-A (from 2017 with USB 3.2) you have to stay in the same time period if you wanna make a fair comparison since I am talking about it connector itself.

              just because “it feels better”?

              yes, it fells better because it has way tighter tolerances > USB-C can be everything from the nicest feeling connector if you’re lucky and get the perfect cable+connector to the wabblyest mess that barely holds the cable if you’re unlucky. And it only gets worse over time because the connection of USB-C is purely based on friction (which wears out over time) and lightning uses friction + it “snaps into place” with its grooves on the sides. Another thing I’ve noticed (since I carry around both my private Android phone (with USB-C) and an iPhone for work) is that the lint build up on USB-C is way higher then on lightning and cleaning it is a bit more annoying because of its “weird” choice of design that both the connector and the cable are both male and female (obviously only a problem on phones or other devices you carry around with you)

              Are you aware that lightning is a proprietary connector?

              yes, but that doesn’t mean that I cant believe that its the superior connector (not used USB standard), to give you another example: I believe that Apples HomeKit is currently the best Smart Home standard for an average person (Matter is in theory better but it was more of a paper launch so we will see how many companies actually support it) simply because all devices are required to work without a server or internet connection and before anyone says anything, yes Home Assistant is also great but can require a lot of tinkering + some kind of server (like a raspberry pi) so I would more put it in a enthusiast grade tier and not average consumer.

              So basically you would want every device to use a nonexistent updated lightning

              actually no, the “one connector for everything” dream is great and I would love it to be true but we are at a point (and I don’t see it becoming any better in the future) where yes we have one connector for most things but the cables are such a hot mess where you have no idea if the cable can actually do what you want it to do because USB-C can be everything from USB 2.0 to USB4 v2.0 (without the need to comply with everything that is in the spec), Thunderbolt 4 or even a power only cable without any easy way to differentiate them.

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          10 months ago

          Oh god, obviously, if it would have been updated to modern speeds, i thought that’s obvious, but i guess people hate apple too much to think for half a second

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            10 months ago

            Obviously it would be updated? Why would it be obvious when Apple hasn’t updated it at all, it was introduced in the Iphone 5 where it had USB 2 speeds, the Iphone 14 also has lightning connection and has… USB 2 speeds.

            10 years and no update. Seems more like you liking Apple to mucb to think rather then us hating them too much.

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              10 months ago

              if it would have been updated

              IF it would have been updated, i never said it would have been updated

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            10 months ago

            Ah right, obviously you would change the core specs, how stupid of me

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      10 months ago

      To be fair, USB-C didn’t exist when Lightning was introduced

      Hmm, I wonder why that was?

      Lightning is a proprietary computer bus and power connector, created and designed by Apple Inc. It was introduced on September 12, 2012

      Design for the USB-C connector was initially developed in 2012 by Apple Inc. and Intel.

      So Apple helped develop USB-C but failed to integrate it into their products for a decade. Now, why would they do that?

      Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_(connector)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C

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        10 months ago

        Because it’s not a superior connector. Lightning is better as a purely charging port. It’s less fragile and doesn’t have a million competing implementations. One of the most frustrating things about USB-C is you can’t be sure if a cable is actually going to work.