Apple is bringing sideloading and alternate app stores to the iPhone
www.theverge.com
Ahead of the DMA coming into force in March.

They’re not actually relinquishing any control. They’re just allowing subsidiary “app stores” to take a tiny cut while Apple still controls everything.

I’ve been an Apple fanboy for years, but less so these days. I can’t imagine that the EU won’t fine them for this, although it’s hard to imagine any fine that would make an impression on a $3 trillion company.

  • rowdy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    9 months ago

    Apple fan here - their mobile devices and laptops. The consumer practices are another conversation.

    Anyway, I never see any Apple fans defending Apple. Unless you use shit tier tech sites like MacRumors.

    But I do see a metric fuck ton of Apple haters complaining about these non-existent Apple white knights.

    • Octopus1348@lemy.lolEnglish
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      9 months ago

      There are a lot of people saying that sideloading is bad actually on Twitter. You know, the place where you can get brain damage.

      • rowdy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        9 months ago

        Ah yes but brain damage is a requirement for that data aggregation propaganda service.

        Surely, us Lemmings wouldn’t ever use a Tweet as a source…. Right?

    • DJDarren@thelemmy.clubEnglish
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      9 months ago

      I love my MacBook, my iPad is a lovely bit of tech, my iPhone is perfect for my needs, and my Apple TV shits all over any and all “smart” TV setups I’ve used.

      Apple as a company though, are absolute shit. But they really do make good stuff.

      • Optional@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        9 months ago

        Mmmmpretty sure you’re saying a shit company makes good stuff? I mean, that seems unlikely.

        • DJDarren@thelemmy.clubEnglish
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          9 months ago

          And yet, here we are.

          I have a 15" MacBook Air that’s easily the most beautiful, most powerful computer I’ve ever owned, running an operating system that works incredibly well for me, an OS that syncs damn near perfectly with my phone and iPad. I have a 2011 MacBook that’s running the last version of macOS even though it officially lost support a fair few years ago. It’s still absolutely solid for a 13 year old laptop.

          They make incredible stuff.

          But they have very, very shitty consumer practices.

          • ElJefe@lemm.eeEnglish
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            9 months ago

            Totally agree.

            As a side note, do you have any tips on updating an old MacBook to newer os? I also have a 2011 MacBook, and I’ve been looking at ways to upgrade the os. So far I’ve found Opencore as maybe the only viable way. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!

            • DJDarren@thelemmy.clubEnglish
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              9 months ago

              Yeah, Opencore is the gold standard for patching new macOS onto unsupported hardware. In fact, I’m not sure there are really any other ways now.

              I can’t speak for how Sonoma runs on a 2011 MacBook, but I have Ventura on mine and it runs just fine. It’s not going to set the world alight with its benchmarks, but it’s still a perfectly usable laptop. Does yours have an SSD and maxed out RAM? Because those two will help enormously.

              • ElJefe@lemm.eeEnglish
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                9 months ago

                It does. I upgraded from hard drive to SSD, and maxed out the RAM up to 4 gb per slot several years ago.

                I’m not super techy, but I’ll figure it out. My main hangup right now is not having a backup drive. I suppose I should start there lol. Thanks so much!

                • DJDarren@thelemmy.clubEnglish
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                  9 months ago

                  Pretty sure that machine can take 16gb, to make it extra useful.

                  Opencore is surprisingly easy to setup. The instructions aren’t massively clear, but all you’ll really need is a 16gb+ memory stick and a bit of patience. Install Opencore to the Mac’s SSD, then download whichever OS you want using the option in Opencore, which will then automatically make the installer.

                  • ElJefe@lemm.eeEnglish
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                    9 months ago

                    You’re correct, it can take up to 16gb. I’ll try running it as it is, and later upgrade the RAM.

                    Thanks so much for your help man, I really appreciate it! Will update when I get it done. Cheers bruv

            • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              9 months ago

              I’m not the guy you’re talking with, but I have successfully installed multiple flavors of Linux on a 2010 MacBook recently, and am now running Zorin on it. Linux will run on unbelievably tiny resources compared to Windows. I wrote a post about it a few months ago asking the Linux community here for suggestions if you’re interested.

    • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      9 months ago

      I geuss the comments I read on reddit, hacker news and even lemmy were all fragments of my imagination. It pissed me off that people were literally defending companies fucking them but eh, they kinda deserve what’s happening to them at this point.

      • rowdy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        9 months ago

        Reddit I’m not surprised. Can’t speak for hacker news but if their comments are all in defense of Apple, that tells me everything I need to know about the site.

        Lemmy…. lol we both know that’s bullshit. The whole FOSS community is here. Just look at the echo chamber we’ve already created in just this thread.

        All I’m saying is we can be a little more nuanced than “Apple bad”. You see the same shit on both sides of the isle. Some people will shit on apple for something, then turn around and praise Google for the same shenanigans, or vice versa.

        I agree that Apple targets the non-tech people. But there are still technical people with legitimate reasons they use Apple. We shouldn’t be discounted because you don’t agree with the company. I think most of us don’t agree with most companies.

        • Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          9 months ago

          I kid you not, I vaguely remember that the comment about the phone becoming less safe due to sideloading was from lemmy. I think it was downvoted to hell but still. Lemmy isn’t all techy people and even then some people consider the walled garden as a feature.

          I know all companies are full of bullshit, and I reckon that Apple makes both great software and hardware, but I hate with a passion how they try to make the most anti-consumer shit ever and then claim it’s for their users/environmental benefits. I lose faith in humanity a little bit more each time I read someone comment stating that the EU forcing apple to open imessage would make it less secure or that their forced passage to USB-C would only hurt the users, or that Apple not including the faster charger was okey because they already had a charger at home ( so as Apple claimed, better for the environment ), but then they go and buy it separately ( because it’s better and faster ) and it comes in a box full of plastic.

          • rowdy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            9 months ago

            I respect your stance - I’m willing to bet we’d agree a lot on how we think things should be.