• Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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    10 months ago

    I predicted Apple would use country lockouts for this stuff when the news first came out.

    Ask your government to take action, it’s the only way Apple might even consider loosening their iron fist on your phone. Undoing Brexit may not be in the charts, but the UK could probably get something similar to the DMA/DSA. It might even be more effective, as the EU’s requirements are spread across the preferences and markets of dozens of countries and cultures, whereas the UK is a lot smaller!

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      10 months ago

      Something Android has had since version 1.0: the ability to install apps from places other than the App Store.

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          10 months ago

          There are ways to sideload apps on iOS, but it’s pain in the ass. From my memory (may not be 100% correct as of today):

          • many 3rd party apps not allowed in apps store are distributed in source code form. use xcode to compile the app yourself and load it to your phone. Works for a week, then you’ll have to install it again. Oh, and you can only install three at a time.

          • there are 3rd party apps stores that sort of working by distributing their developer certificates along with the 3rd party apps (e.g. tweakboxapp, etc). You’ll need to trust the developer certificates before you can install the apps. Oh, and apple frequently revoked their certificates so you’ll going to play cat and mouse with apple.

          • use altstore.io to install 3rd party app. The same 3 apps limit still apply, but this app automatically manage reinstallation for you, so it can reduce the pain of managing sideloaded apps just a bit.

        • driveway@lemmy.zip
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          10 months ago

          It’s not even something to love. It should in the definition of a mobile OS/phone. It would be weird to say “I love that Android can output display”.

      • Mario_Dies.wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        10 months ago

        One thing I’ve learned living in a conservative state in the US is that everything is my fault by proxy

        I should just be rich enough to move, how hard can it be

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            10 months ago

            “We should just build a wall around your state and force it to secede. All the LGBT+ and POC should relocate immediately because it’s not safe to live there.”

            “What about all the people who can’t afford to move? What about all the people living on tribal land?”

            “Oh, them? Hmmm. They should move, too. Again.”

            The fact is, right-wing extremism shouldn’t be tolerated anywhere. Putting all the fascists “on an island” doesn’t fix anything because there will always be children and other people who never asked to be there, yet have to suffer.

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          10 months ago

          rich enough to move

          Just so we’re clear, you’re simultaneously too rich to move (like a Guatemalan farmer) and too poor to move (like a IT graduate)?

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          10 months ago

          Time to start the rejoin in only another 10 years or so I think. We’ll be voting on single market membership again before the decade is out I think.

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            10 months ago

            It’s incredible how that decision fucked the country for decades. One of the best examples why “direct democracy” does not guarantee good decisions just because it was the people’s choice.

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              10 months ago

              It wasn’t direct democracy though.

              No member of the public ever voted on the legislation.

              If the legislation has been put to the public and the referendum bound it to law I think it would have gone differently.

              The vote relied people voting for their own version of Brexit vs. the status quo.

              I’m not a fan of direct democracy by any means but Brexit isn’t an example of it.

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                10 months ago

                Ah, okay, so the referendum was just more like a consultation whether brexit should happen, but the badly done legislation came afterwards (which people probably wouldn’t have voted for)?

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                  10 months ago

                  Exactly.

                  People were simultaneously told different things by different people on what would happen of the country voted leave. A lot of it obviously false even at the time.

                  People might have known what they were voting for. But what they were voting for had no basis on what the government would actually do.

                  Then we had the prime minister who held the referendum resign.

                  A new prime minister is chosen in a private election amongst members of the conservative party (about 100,000 votes will do it normally but no one actually runs against them). This becomes a theme.

                  There is legislation passed which essentially puts a clock on the process. If nothing passes we’d just revoke laws and break treaties.

                  This was meant to scare the EU into giving us what we wanted. The EU was not overly concerned.

                  The government put some very shoddy legislation together. We got a pretty poor deal from the EU, well we were pretty desperate.

                  The government couldn’t pass that legislation

                  We had an election for a new government

                  The government lost seats and lost their majority

                  The government then joined with a religious extremist party in Northern Ireland to give them a majority.

                  The shoddy legislation becomes not only shoddy but also more extreme, It still can’t pass.

                  The prime minister is ousted by their own party.

                  We get a new prime minister.

                  They still haven’t decided on the legislation but they tell everyone what they want to hear.

                  We have an election

                  The government gets a big working majority

                  The shoddy extreme legislation, which we now know from first hand accounts the prime minister didn’t understand, still can’t pass.

                  The government literally breaks the law and closes parliament illegally to try and run the clock closer to the point where we take a bonfire to massive ammous of legislation.

                  The government are then forced back into the house by the courts

                  Eventually at the last moment a deal is passed. It’s really bad for the UK economy, and the UK in general.

                  The UK leaves the EU. Northern Ireland doesn’t. Well it sort of does.

                  COVID and Another 2 prime ministers later and Brexit deals are still being negotiated.

                  Essentially he EU has everything it needs. It’s protected the interests of bordering nations like the Republic of Ireland and France. The UK has increased friction on trade, labour issues.

                  The current big issue is that France no longer helps us stop people crossing the channel. That was an EU agreement. So our government, now spends it’s time and energy trying to deport people to Rwanda, breaking the entirely separate European Convention on Human Rights Churchill’s government basically wrote and passed after the second world war.

                  It’s worth noting that this government has had a vote share of 36.1% pre referendum in 2015 36.9% post referendum in 2017 42.4% post deadlock in 2019 (with the opposition getting 40%)

                  The conservative party got that lock in 2019 on 55% of the seats with 42.4% of the vote

                  Since then they’ve rotated people in and out of government to essentially do the bidding of the one who pays the most into their individual campaign funds against each other.

                  The government refuse to allow an election even while they’re essentially changing constantly.

                  We haven’t really got democracy in this country. We disenfranchise a lot of people through our electoral system by design. We concentrate power to a minority.

                  It’s a mess.

      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        10 months ago

        I meant this comment more in regards to your lovely voting peers in the country you have to reside in.

        Wish you best of luck rejoining the EU!

  • gradyp@awful.systems
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    10 months ago

    “Minimizes diminished App Store revenue”

    I am an Apple user and in the end I’m more comfortable with them having access to my data than google… but man, they don’t even bother to pretend it’s a pro-consumer issue thing anymore.

    Been noticing that a lot lately, corporate weasel language is dying as these companies grow more and more emboldened.

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      10 months ago

      Both Google and Apple sell your data to the same companies. It’s kinda the point of them having ‘an ecosystem’ (monopolized ofc).

      All “privacy” efforts they made with their OSs were exclusively so third party apps can collect less data from you and have to buy data from Google/Apple.

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          10 months ago

          The op I replied to? Apples quarterly revenue statements? Their terms you agree to? Explicit ‘Apple privacy policy’ on the subject?

          Both Apple and Google restrict third party app privacy not for your protection/increased privacy but to monopolize data collection. Eg Facebook vs Meta was a few years ago a fairly public fight.

          But on both OSs you don’t really have the option to restrict data collection from their services (on some Androids you can’t even disable Google services, much less uninstall them). And Google also pays several billions per quarter to Apple to be the default search data collection engine.

          It is true tho that companies differ a lot so the data collection is different too (the biggest difference is that Apple doesn’t have that much need for user data since it isn’t really in personalized ad business).

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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      10 months ago

      I’m getting real tired of corpo doublespeak. It’s everywhere right now and I feel like people are finally getting wise to it. I don’t want to hear whatever made up by committee garbage you came up with. Give us an answer.

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      10 months ago

      It’s a matter of time. Other countries just need a copy paste law. Apple knows this. But right now it’s worth it to keep 2 systems around.

  • ThenThreeMore@startrek.website
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    10 months ago

    Another Brexit Benefit

    Fuck Nigel Frog face Farrage, The Haunted Victorian Pencil Jacob Rees-Mogg, Lord David Pig Fucker Cameron, Maybot, Boris I don’t care where I stick my Johnson, and all the rest of the Tories who either actively supported this or were to self interested to not rebel as their leaders doubled down on their Brexit folly again and again.

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    10 months ago

    The way I see it, the majority of Apple users are fine without side loading and won’t even notice it’s not there. This is typical Apple behavior so people that buy Apple products should know what they’re getting into.

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    10 months ago

    I don’t know how the situation works with apple devices, but wouldn’t it be possible to import a model from a country with sideloading required?

    I know it’s more expensive, but it’s something I’d do and have been thinking about with a different phone that ain’t available in my country.

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    10 months ago

    What is that square with an up arrow icon near the bottom left supposed to do? Help you square up for hitting a golf ball or something?