The only few reason I know so far is software availability, like adobe software, and Microsoft suite. Is there more of major reasons that I missed?

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    And most people, if they used Linux, wouldn’t have to use the terminal for anything either. Linux has come along a long way for the average user, assuming you choose a sensible newbie-friendly distro like Zorin on Linux-friendly hw, or your PC comes with Linux OOTB (like System76 machines) - then an average user, would never have to touch the terminal.

    Just ask my elderly parents - they’ve been running Linux for about 15 years now without having to touch the terminal or learn any commands. And before you say anything - yes, they do more than just Facebook - they print and scan stuff, backup files from their phones, transfer files across USB drives, do some light document editing - pretty much all your basic computing tasks really - and they never needed to touch the terminal.

    This misconception that Linux users need to use/learn the terminal really needs to die.

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      Your one use case does nothing to convince me. I’ve read enough recent examples contrary to that to know better, not to mention having had to manually edit a ridiculous number of setting files on my own system to get something to work properly that should have just worked without jumping through all the hoops. Keep lying to yourself that this will be the year of the linux desktop.

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        And all you’re giving is vague excuses without any specifics. You shouldn’t have to edit anything at all manually, if you’re running a sensible distro on Linux-friendly hardware.

        If you had to do edit stuff then either you were using the wrong distro, or you’ve got incompatible.

        And who said anything about being the year of the Linux desktop? Stop putting words into my mouth.

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          I don’t need to be specific. It’s not necessary to convince you or a priority to explain what all I had to do. You’re not worth the time, this isn’t a debate. I diagnosed the issues and fixed them. I recently tried Zorin out of curiosity and it was a shitshow with numerous things not working. I went to Linux Mint and still had to fix issues. Pretty sure that’s the exact distro you referred to, plus the one determined to be easiest and most noob friendly. So that presumption of yours is DOA. Now fuck off, because I don’t need your opinion on whether or not I did something wrong, and the comments on this post are filled with people who also have issues. Go lecture them.

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            You’re not worth the time, this isn’t a debate.

            Really, then why are you replying to me? You should stop replying to me then if your time is so precious.

            I recently tried Zorin out of curiosity and it was a shitshow with numerous things not working. I went to Linux Mint and still had to fix issues. Pretty sure that’s the exact distro you referred to, plus the one determined to be easiest and most noob friendly. So that presumption of yours is DOA.

            Was that on Linux friendly hardware though? You completely ignored the second point. And once again, you’re making vague claims, basically lies, because you’ve got no evidence.

            Now fuck off, because I don’t need your opinion on whether or not I did something wrong, and the comments on this post are filled with people who also have issues. Go lecture them.

            Well you can fuck off yourself, if you can just slander Linux and post whatever the fuck you want to, why can’t I?

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              The OP’s post is asking why people leave Linux… if you cannot handle an honest response to the post, and consider it slander, that’s your problem.

              If you cannot understand by what I’ve already written that I fixed the issues, and are unable to work out for yourself that means the hardware is compatible after necessary fixes, that’s also your problem.

              Now I’m blocking you. Go whine at someone else.

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                The OP’s post is asking why people leave Linux… if you cannot handle an honest response to the post, and consider it slander, that’s your problem.

                I was replying to your claim about the command line “being a deal breaker for many”, when I made the counter-claim that it’s basically irrelevant, because if you’re using the right distro on the right hardware, then you would never have to touch the command line.

                If you cannot understand by what I’ve already written that I fixed the issues, and are unable to work out for yourself that means the hardware is compatible after necessary fixes, that’s also your problem.

                If you had LINUX-FRIENDLY hardware then you wouldn’t even need to go thru hoops, assuming you’re using a sensible distro. The fact that you had to do a bunch of fixes simply proves that your hardware wasn’t Linux-friendly in the first place, OR you’re using a distro that’s not appropriate for your hardware.

                Say you bought a brand new bleeding-edge machine that just came out with a new CPU architecture or something. Zorin, which would normally be fine, would probably not be ideal in this instance, because it’s based on Ubuntu, which uses outdated packages. So in this instance, you may need a distro with a more recent kernel. That is why I keep reiterating you need both the right hardware AND the right distro for YOUR situation. Zorin was just an example of a newbie-friendly distro - it doesn’t necessarily mean its the right OS for you and your hardware.

                But this is also why I keep insisting on “Linux-friendly” hardware - if you don’t know what’s Linux-friendly and don’t want to go thru hoops trying to get basic shit working on random systems, try getting a machine from System76 and then tell me whether or not you were forced to use the command line for basic tasks.

                But don’t just go buy some random hardware without doing your research first, and then proceed to install Linux on it, and then whine about having to use the command line.