• toasteecup@lemmy.world
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    2 年前

    Socialism by definition is not anti establishment. It’s anti current establishment but the philosophy is geared towards a bigger government “establishment”.

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      I’m pretty sure that’s the difference between anti establishing and anti government. the “establishment” is the established power structure. technically fascists ARE anti establishment in most places. and that’s a very good thing.

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        2 年前

        Fascists only pretend to be anti establishment their whole thing is preserving capitalism when it enters crisis.

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          hmm, that feels a bit like splitting hairs. at that point we have to argue whether the establishment is capitalism, or the government. and that just seems like a pedantic argument about semantics that will accomplish nothing. point being, most fascists want to overthrow their current government.

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            The government is part of the structure of capitalism though. It is an expression of the power of capital.