TL;DR: I wonder why we always have the same 2 posts as top posts of the day. They appear a bit unnecessary and mildly annoying to me.
Do you think the same? Or do you like them, and can explain me why, so I can change my view?
Please don’t just blindly downvote, writing this post took a lot of time. And if you feel the need to do it anyway, tell me why first.


Maybe I am the only person who thinks that.
I probably am, at least according to numbers.

Basically, I’ve got the feeling that every top post of the day for the last weeks is something like “I’ve freed myself from evil Windows’ shackles and finally switched to Linux.”, or “What distro do you recommend?”.

Don’t get me wrong.
I feel super happy for every newcomer discovering the wonderful world of Linux and FOSS.
I, just like most others here, always try to help them in finding their right distro and guiding them in their first steps.
We all have been there.
And I’m super proud of us all, as a community, that we happily embrace every new member. We definitely have to keep that behaviour, it’s what connects us and makes us strong.

I just think we should redirect them a bit onto the specific communities.
Not by banning or censoring, just as friendly reminder, e.g. by a sticky post, comments like “Hey, check out !linux4noobs@lemmy.ml” or something else.

It doesn’t help much if there are the same threads every day, with people circlejerking on hating Windows and recommending Mint a hundred times, just like 100 people before did on the same thread.

I hate Windows too, but it feels like we’re identifying and comparing ourselves with the bitter ex-partner we had a while ago. No, not being Windows shouldn’t be the main reason Linux is great.
There are so many great posts and discussions, that are all going missing in this swamp of “Winblows bad, hehe”.
We should focus on what makes our software great, and not what the “bad ex-partner” did wrong.

Same with newcomer posts.
I think if the posters get redirected to the correct sub, they will receive more help, since the people partaking in the community are there because they wanna see exactly that.


At the same time, I’m afraid this would undermine our openness and friendliness of this community, and result in being as shitty as Reddits’ sub.

!Just as an anecdote, when I was a noob, I posted a question there, and, like 5 minutes later, I got a dozen of non-constructive, offensive comments. 10 minutes later, my post got removed. This was my first contact to the Linux world btw. Guess who switched back to Windows for another half year because of that?
We have to prevent this at any costs.
Anyway… !<


I really enjoy this community here and wanna keep it this great.
I just wanted to ask you, what you think about those everyday-top-posts.
If you like them, please try to change my mind and explain me why :)

  • Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    I guess a sticky post titled « ditching windows, looking to find my way on Linux » would help and new posts about doing that should be forbidden in the community rules/redirected to the sticky post 😇

    But it’s also important to welcome properly newcomers.

  • BlanK0@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    I like seeing the posts of people finding comfort with their new linux installs even tho they might appear a couple of times.

    Linux is still considered a niche so the most likelihood of the newer folk appearing is higher then the more experienced ones. Also I wasn’t always experienced and if it wasn’t for newbie friendly content I wouldn’t be here helping other people as well.

    After all, information doesn’t spawn out of thin air, it requires someone to carry and distribute it so that other people become also educated in those ways.

    Which is way I find weird finding some people say “people are dumb they should do x, y or z cause its better” but then they don’t provide any information and expect others to also know what they already know/have learned recently.

    In conclusion, sharing is caring and I don’t mind people sharing their experiences which also helps others on the same situation.

  • Ramin Honary@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Maybe it bothers you more because your Lemmy feed is not as well populated with interesting posts as you would hope?

    I do wish people would check the post history here before asking “what distro should I use.” Or search the web for “how to pick a Linux distro in 2024” there are no shortage of those, although to be fair to them, you are a lot more likely nowadays to find nothing but AI-generated bullshit.

    Like this commenter here mentions, there are pinned posts saying “share the story of how you met your distro.” I would love it if moderators could take posts and turn them into comments on pinned posts like "share. But we don’t have that as far as I know, so what can you do but contribute a patch to the Lemmy software maintainers, or else just deal with the noise.

  • dvb@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    I feel the same way. Most of the feedback on your post seems to be from newbies who like it, so maybe we should start a new community for us advanced folks instead of referring everyone to !linux4noobs@lemmy.world.

    • N0x0n@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      Dividing the community is probably not the best thing to do right now… There’s also the intermediate power user, with specific question in regard of grub or how to update the kernel issues.

      The kind of question that are easy for advanced folk but can be a big ? for intermediate people.

      Do we also start a new community for them?

      IMO that’s a bad idea…

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    Yes.

    These posts are the “I voted for peace” decorative lapel button of the '60s and '70s. These posts were the leading edge in the '90s and a little of the '00s.

    Now they’re tiresome. It’s like people who’ve come late to the party and want their fanfare; people who came last in the race and proclaim themselves the leaders. The race is over, the banners are down, the spotlight’s off and the newsmedia’s gone home. No need to proclaim victory, nor virtue-signal inclusion in a group that isn’t exclusive.

  • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    Positivity is good. I would rather see 100 positive posts than one negative one, even if there’s a lot of redundancy. It helps encourage others to switch to Linux, which is good.

  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    8 months ago

    For me I’d rather people post something over nothing even if it’s the same post to us it’s clearly something the poster felt was important to them.

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      8 months ago

      I thought about it too, but I personally want to use the downvote function only to signal a low-effort or low-worth post, not my opinion or dislike.
      Remember, it’s supposed as filter, not opinion system.

      So while I personally don’t find much liking in some posts in general, there has always been a person behind it that invested time into writing that particular comment or post.

      • youmaynotknow@lemmy.ml
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        8 months ago

        This world, and this community, need more people like you. You strike me as a king person that has no issue speaking his/her mind. And I learned from you how to better use those uovote/down vote buttons. Thank you, for real.

        • Guenther_Amanita@feddit.deOP
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          Depends. If it’s just one sentence, it won’t add any value or stuff to discuss.

          But if it’s an experience report it can always be interesting to read and adds value.

  • narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    I like them as long as they’re describing their experience and/or motivation behind the step.

    What I don’t like is posts that are simply bashing on Windows (because apparently it’s cool?) and praising Linux like it’s some sort of silver bullet. Share your negative experiences and describe hoops and workarounds you had to jump through to make Linux work for you. Or describe why it didn’t work out for you and why you’re back to Windows (and then, dear commenters, don’t flame the guy).

    • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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      8 months ago

      Full agreement with you here. Quality over quantity is important and if we want to instill a “Linux community” mindset/ettiquite, it’s about learning, making bug reports and maybe just a bit of showing off.

      So w.r.t. Windows -> Linux migration posts, I hope we ask the people that post about their experience to go in detail in the problems they ran into, what software works or didn’t work, what parts they liked, and what parts they might miss from Windows. A generic “Windows bad and spies on you, Linux good and free!” post lacks the detail that I think more people would appreciate and bring real value to the community.

  • 0x0@social.rocketsfall.net
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    8 months ago

    This was a solved problem on other sites via wikis and weekly threads. There’s no value in another “what distro should I use?” post. It’s great that people want to contribute, but there should be a more centralized resource we can refer people to where people can focus this energy.

    As for the Windows threads, they’ve been a staple of every Linux-focused community for as long as I’ve been browsing them. I guess if it makes people feel better then I suppose that’s enough of a reason to keep them around.

  • SavvyWolf@pawb.social
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    8 months ago

    I’ve said this sentiment before, but I’ll repeat it here.

    If you’re a pro uber-1337 Gamer, you probably have over 1TiB of storage available. Keeping 64 or even 100GiB of space free for a Windows install isn’t really going to break the bank. IMO it’s worth keeping a Windows 10 install around just in case you need to use something that only runs on Windows, or some game really doesn’t agree with Linux. Nuking a Windows install feels a bit reckless, especially considering the pain of installing it and getting licenses set up.

    Part of me worries that these posts are making it seem that deleting your Windows install is some kind of “rite of passage” people have to go through, even though I bet many devout Linux users here still have a Windows install “just in case”.

    I would like to see a sticky “shill your distro” and/or “guide to recommended distros for a new user” thread. Most people making those threads are usually fine with something like Mint, Ubuntu, Pop or Fedora, and replies sometimes get into technical debate or people shilling their favorite distro (which would be better served in a dedicated thread).

    However, we’re only a small community here, so most activity is good activity, as long as we don’t repeat the exact same posts over and over.

    • youmaynotknow@lemmy.ml
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      I keep a Windows VM in my server for when I have to update some of my accessories (because Logitech won’t do anything for Linux, but their keyboards and mice are so awesome for work that I can’t think of any potential replacement), but I would never keep a Windows install one any of my desktops or laptops. In this, I do consider Windows a waste of space, even if it was only 1Gig.

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      8 months ago

      Everyone knows the real rite of passage is not just deleting Windows, but destroying the Linux install.

      Bonus points if it’s both.

  • ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today
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    I feel like limiting or discouraging them would really hurt adoption.

    Many times people share their use cases.

    If someone with similar use cases finds out “wait, it us possible for me yo use Linux?” they could become tomorrow’s post.

  • Not at all. You seem to think there’s a more appropriate forum for people to join the Linux community, and introduces. Where is that? And how do new Linux users find it? Knowing nothing about Linux distros, where should they ask about distros? Distrowatch catalogs 274 distributions - how do newbies navigate those?

    I do think having a “which distro” stickie or sidebar would be handy, but I don’t at all mind the “I ditched Windows” posts. It beats random venting, ranting, and flame wars.

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    I don’t think it’s anyone’s job to make sure newcomers do not leave Linux because “muh post was removed”. If you can’t take 2 minutes to find the correct sub to post your question, you won’t be able to use Linux either.

    Lemmy has this problem where everything is upvoted no matter what. I’ve posted some dumb questions myself expecting them to get removed but they received upvotes instead. I’m thinking its either bots to drive engagement or people are very welcoming here or they’re just happy that Lemmy isn’t dead yet so they’ll upvote anything.

    • Guenther_Amanita@feddit.deOP
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      8 months ago

      I have to admit, the RTFM-mentality or “you’re too dumb to read”-thing is very unwelcoming in general and would drive anyone away, no matter whom.

      And then the whole community becomes more toxic over time.
      I’d rather tell someone nicely that he may have more success in the specialised community than here, but still try to answer the question if I can.

      It’s not only important to be friendly/ supportive for keeping the community alive, no, it’s mainly for keeping the morale alive.

      I asked many really dumb questions in the past too, and I always got very happy people took their time to answer them in detail. That made my day in the end!


      About the blind upvoting: I also upvote many posts where I see any value in or where the poster put work into, even if I don’t care much.

      But conversation is more important imo, it’s what drives this platform.
      I’d rather have 5 upvotes and some helpful comments than 500 upvotes and nothing else in my post.

      Downvoting on the other hand should only be used if something is very low effort or should be filtered out in some way, not as dislike or disagree button.