• 01011@monero.town
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    7 months ago

    I’m okay with USB-C and a headphone jack on my laptop. The other shit is for the birds.

  • Nurgus@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    USB-C is awesome though. I carry one charger amd dongle for HDMI and ethernet. It serves my many devices including Steam Deck, phone and laptop.

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      7 months ago

      It is pretty flexible. But ethernet, displayport, 3.5mm, etc require an adapter. Plus, usb-c’s bandwidth is typically 40gbps max, whereas DisplayPort is 80gbps, for example. Not to mention that the number of ports is way lower than it used to be.

      • GamingChairModel@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        The Apples of this generation pictured all support DisplayPort alt mode, and Thunderbolt 3, through those USB-C ports. That means that you could use passive USB-C to DP cables that didn’t need active translation in the cable/adapter itself.

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          7 months ago

          That means that you could use passive USB-C to DP cable

          Precisely, you need to use an adapter and you’re already down a significant % of ports just plugging in a monitor. The ports in lots of laptop models are a joke and it’s baffling that more people aren’t laughing.

  • Crafter72@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 months ago

    As long as the bare necessities is available e.g 14" with HDMI, 2 Type C with PD and DP Alt, MicroSD/SD card reader, smart card reader(?), 2 USB A 3.1, 1x 3.5mm jack, 1x ethernet port, kensington and easy maintenance, for me it’s enough. VGA connectors (dang those older projectors) can be handled with VGA to HDMI adapter.

    My daily device is T14 G1 AMD with dualbooting separate SSD (M.2 WWAN slot used as SSD).

  • ccunning@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I dunno - I’m pretty sure I’d choose the modern MacBook Pro’s ports over any of these other options.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        7 months ago

        Exactly! What are you going to do if your router dies (or you mess something up fiddling w/ things)? I may only need it once/year or so, but when I do, it’s really important and I most likely can’t find the dongle.

        An RJ-45 port could totally fit on there if they used one of those flip-down things that Dell has on their professional line.

      • QuarterSwede@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        It’s really not. I have one on my work laptop and have never plugged an Ethernet jack into it. That stays permanently in my dock and gets transferred to the laptop via USB-C. All other non-desk work is done via … WiFi. Shock! Literally can’t tell the difference when making money.

    • pixely@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      We’re mindlessly bashing Apple here, we don’t need your sensible reasoning!

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        7 months ago

        From my personal experience Apple products aren’t as great as the fanboys claim but are far far better than they haters say they are.

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      7 months ago

      If you got that kind of money to spend on a laptop, sure. I really don’t.

      Edit: to be clear, I know this is a stack of Mac’s in OPs picture, but the development that the entry models have basically no ports at all is a more recent development. Having to pick the pro just to be able to connect your stuff without dongles or hubs is a bit insane considering the price (and price difference).

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      7 months ago

      I have an M2 Air, and all mine is missing from that is the SDXC slot, third TB4 and HDMI, and honestly, it’s fine. A third TB4/USB would be nice for when I’m doing my radio show and have to plug in my controller and mic while also charing my phone, but I already have a hub so it doesn’t bother me.

      That said, the limited ports on my M1 mini are quite problematic. Two TB3/USB and two USB3, but one of them is lost to a DisplayPort cable for my second monitor. So I have a desktop computer that functionally has three USB sockets, which ain’t great. But again, I have a hub, so it’s not a huge problem.

    • Free_Thoughts@feddit.uk
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      7 months ago

      Yeah, props to Apple for bringing back the card reader and HDMI. When I bought my early 2015 MBP I specifically went with the older model because these ports were removed on the newer one which also came with the shitty butterfly keyboard as well which they’ve also since discontinued.

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      7 months ago

      Power, HDMI, a few USBs, and headphones, all you’ll ever likely need.

      There’s no doubt a dongle for anything else.

      • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Yes, and it’s better to be downgrading USB-C ports with adapters than to be stuck adapting a USB-A port to USB-C or ethernet.

      • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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        7 months ago

        Cause I live toting a do gle around and risk breaking the laptop because of it.

        I did enough of that in the 90’s, TYVM

      • potustheplant@feddit.nl
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        7 months ago

        Unless you want a desk setup. I have 2 monitors, kb, mouse, external dac, usb extension for thumbdrives, ethernet, usb soundcard for my mic and a kvm. That’s dp, hdmi, 6 usb-a, ethernet and I still sometimes plug-in 1-3 devices to charge them.

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            7 months ago

            It’s not about it being practical. It’s about if it’s actually doable or not and how well it would work. Having the native ports will always be better that using a hub/dock.

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              7 months ago

              Yeah, because plugging in one thing is way harder than plugging in six.

              This is a classic use case for a laptop dock.

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                7 months ago

                That’s a very lazy, short-sighted and first world problem way of looking at this issue.

                Why would having the option of using either a hub or plugging things on separately be worse than only being able to use a hub?

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              7 months ago

              Strongly disagree. I use a laptop with a thunderbolt dock. Being able to plug in a single cable to provide power, connect my monitor, all of my input devices, Ethernet, and anything else in a single cable is awesome. If I had to plug 10 things in manually it would be quite cumbersome. I disconnect the laptop daily as I bring it between work and home, as well as use it, well, as a portable laptop.

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                7 months ago

                Kudos to you.

                What you could do now is step out of your bubble and consider that other people have different use cases and might need or prefer to have more native ports.

                You literally lose nothing by having more connectivity options.

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            7 months ago

            Like I already said to another user: No. There are more than a few use cases that require a mobile set up for demos for example but that you’d also want to use in a desk setting. For example, architects or sw dev.

            Why are you making an effort to justify getting shafted by corporations?

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                7 months ago

                You’re still missing the forest for the trees.

                There’s no real reason why you’d have to choose having a few ports + a hub or tons of ports + the option of using a hub.

                If you prefer to “consolidate” your devices to a single poinf of failure on an external device then by all means, go ahead. I just think that it’s pretty crappy that options are being artificially limited and users of all people are making excuses for it.

            • ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world
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              7 months ago

              In this situation a hub is still better. You can pack all the stuff away plugged into the hub for easier set up. If your plugging that all into your laptop, you’ll need to plug it all back in again when you move.

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                7 months ago

                Which might be an issue for you but it’s not for me. Also, I prefer the flexibility to have all of the ports I might need, natively.

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        7 months ago

        Cause I live toting a do gle around and risk breaking the laptop because of it.

        I did enough of that in the 90’s, TYVM

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    7 months ago

    I’m no Apple fanboy (never owned a product of theirs and never will) but to be fair, those two USB-C ports can do everything the old, removed ports can do and more. The real crime here is not putting enough of them on the laptop.

    Edit: The only port I’ll lament the removal of is the headphone jack. USB-C headphones are rare, adapters get lost, and bluetooth headphones compress the audio and have input lag. Everything else can go, though, and won’t be missed. (Okay fine ethernet can stay too.)

  • Johanno@feddit.org
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    7 months ago

    Well do you sell me a docking station with that laptop?

    Or are you going to let me get buy some adapter dongles?

    How about more USB c ports?

  • RoyBattyButCoward@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 months ago

    I miss having a thousand different cables to keep track of /s

    really, all we need is the companies to start packing those laptops with thunderbolt3 or equivalent USB-C (USB 4). I love the old ports, but they were unnecessary. I’d rather the industry finally takes on the open thunderbolt standard and we’re all good to go. With 10 thunderbolt ports you have 10 HDMI, or 10 USB, or 10 Ethernet, or 10 headphone jacks, or 10 RJ45 or whatever you need + PCIe tunneling.

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    7 months ago

    To make our laptops look clean and minimalistic, they made us buy a bunch of dongles and adapters.

    Screw it, I’m buying a rugged laptop with the thickness of a desktop PC next

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    7 months ago

    Do the bottom two have the same charging port? Impossible!

    Also, my first time seeing the newer FireWire and whatever the video output is…

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    7 months ago

    Why not complain about them not having a floppy drive anymore while you’re at it? That’s as obsolete as the non USB-C ports.