I find that i can spot AI Images fairly easily these days, especially the sort of fantastical tableaus that get posted to the various AI communities around lemmy. I’m tired of seeing them; it all looks the same to me. Was wondering if im being too sensitive, or if other people are similarly bored of the constant unimaginative AI spam…
For the record, I block any explicit AI Art communities that pop up in the feed, but there are more every day…
Nah I think it can be cool and sometimes funny.
I don’t consider it art. The only “creative” part is the prompt itself. Even then, it’s really just users trying to be as fanciful (or perverted) as possible. Once the prompt is ingested, the code takes its cues to remix the turgid crap that’s called the internet today.
Yes, once in a while it produces something “interesting” but this is an accident and not the desired outcome. Ask any artist about this - I’ve never met any that consider all their work as “good” (Ahem, Damien Hirst) and purposefully filter their own output. Ask AI to do that. It can’t. It will literally continue to shit things out until you ask it to stop. Again, like Damien Hirst…
The downside is it’s cheap and requires literally no skill. This means that soon, it will be pretty much everywhere, and thus we’ll continue the inexorable slide into abject mediocrity.
I’m not scared of the AI uprising. I’m scared it’s going to bore us all to death.
I think you’re being unfairly dismissive of the amount of work and creativity that goes into using an AI art generator well. Sure, you can just slam down a prompt and post whatever comes up. But if you really want to generate something specific it can be a ton of work. It can also involve plenty of fiddling with traditional art tools (funny that Photoshop and such are considered “traditional” now, once upon a time it was Photoshop’s turn on the “not real art!” Firing line). Some of the most egregious moral panics lately have come from work where 90% of the effort was traditional tooling, with just a dab of AI in the mix.
But it all gets lumped together under “LOL bad fingers!” And demonized.
But if you really want to generate something specific it can be a ton of work
How much work involved compared to digital art started from a blank page?
Less.
But then, the same is true of digital art itself relative to that done on traditional media, or of photography compared to portrait painting, both technologies that were at one point new.
Still orders of magnitude less effort than actually learning to draw for yourself and making something actually creative
But please do go on about how your pink slime regurgitated by an LLM trained on stolen artwork scraped from hundreds of thousands of actual artists requires so much effort and creativity
But please do go on about how your pink slime regurgitated by an LLM trained on stolen artwork scraped from hundreds of thousands of actual artists requires so much effort and creativity
Because clearly you’re so open to reason.
I mean, I’m not the one who had the unmitigated gall and sense of entitlement to compare the thousands of hours each of the tens of thousands of artists (whose artwork was scraped by LLMs without so much as a by-your-leave) spent practicing to get good at artwork to the… what, ten? twenty? hours you took to get good at “prompt engineering.” Nor did I have the absolute nerve to then complain about how you have it SO ROUGH because you have to “fiddle with Photoshop” but all the mean people mock all your hard effort!
Hint: You’re being mocked because you deserve to be mocked. At best, AI “artists” like yourself are lazily piggybacking off the literal millions of collective man-hours of labor that actual artists spent honing their talent, and trying to pass off the creative equivalent of a boneless chicken nugget shaped like a dinosaur as being of worthy of the same respect as a beef wellington, or at least a damn good burger.
the artwork isn’t stolen.
Really good counterpoint, and you are correct, that I don’t know enough about it. I suspect that, like most things, there will emerge some real “power users” - the artists if you will. I think the problem that started this thread is that, currently, you see AI generated art everywhere and I do agree with that. Then again, maybe they said this about Cave art in antediluvian times…
I considered it as a low effort spam and block any ai art community i can see.
Maybe 1 in 10 AI generated images posted here I look at that are any interest to me.
Most character mashups outside of a handful aren’t very interesting (the pokemon museum one was neat). Most are kinda meh, but don’t bother me as at least with my current settings only a few AI art communities appear on my feed.
always have bad lighting and smudge
Except when it doesn’t. Or is that how you decide what is AI art?
I think it’s not cool unless it’s funny. I’m trying to think of a good philosophical reason for that. I agree most of the time I am annoyed and don’t even look at them, scrolling past as if they were advertising.
As long as they don’t include something to the effect of “I made…” then I’m just mildly irritated at it.
If it does then I ask them what they made because I don’t see it (since it wasn’t them, it was AI)
I mean I think “I made using AI” can be valid when you look at the actually high effort work with the essay long prompts and heavy tweaking before and afterwards and etc, which I have seen
Essay prompts are not hard work. You prompted AI or you used AI, but you didn’t create anything. I don’t support AI, but I find it passable if people don’t claim it as their own work.
You didn’t create it, AI did. Ask an actual artist if you created it; they will say “no”.
Use AI if you want, but don’t claim it as your work
Really? Writing a high quality prompt that would inspire good work is easy? Big standardized test makers don’t have to meticulously create fair and quality questions?
I think that claiming you “created something with AI” is an accurate label at a certain level of work.
Not in the slightest. What bothers me are the communities that ban it even when the art in question is exactly what that community is for. What bothers me even more are the communities that ban it secretly, so you never even know there’s an AI art ban unless you step on that landmine yourself.
I enjoy them, especially the surrealist stuff.
No, it’s too much of a spectrum/hierarchy to be so absolute about it.
It doesn’t really bother me, but like you I am bored of it and I generally ignore it, or block communities if I’m seeing too much of it.
It is really cool that the models can generate fairly detailed images, but they’re all so similar and… boring. I once saw someone describe it like corporate art. It just tries to imitate something popular in a very mediocre way. You can keep re-training it, but it can still only imitate.
Still, if people are into it then that’s ok too. I have used it at work on occasion to create stupid little icons for internal tools I’ve built, so I guess there’s some little bit of utility.
My guess is that it’ll be used for a while for cheap and low effort branding, but soon companies will want to hire real artists again to differentiate themselves from the ML spam.
Still, if people are into it then that’s ok too. I have used it at work on occasion to create stupid little icons for internal tools I’ve built, so I guess there’s some little bit of utility.
IMO, thats sort of the main use I see for AI image generation (and a lot of other art-AIs). There are plenty of cases where a graphic is needed that doesn’t need to be original, nor have any meaningful thought put into it. This could be a small icon that would normally be a free peice of stock art or programmer art, or it could be adding a unimportant backdrop to some character art that would otherwise just be left blank. Not all graphics have to be “art” and things that are “art” don’t have to be 100% original and hand crafted.
AI-generated art posted anywhere can bother me. It depends.
If the art comes with a post crediting the art and artists used to create the piece? I don’t mind them, even if the art isn’t to my taste. But more than often it’s not. And I do consider it stealing if the AI-generated art wasn’t pulling only from the person who was using the AI’s own art.
As most take from anywhere on the internet and attributes it to no one, I shall continue to block.
Not at all. I think it’s fascinating. The technology behind it is incredible and getting better every day. While I don’t consider any AI-generated images to be “masterpieces” by any stretch of the imagination, they’re interesting to study.
I blocked ai communities wherever they showed up, it’s not that I hate it it just has no value to me, no substance. It’s like looking at one of billions of marginal steps some algorithm takes to refine itself.
I dont mind it. Its fascinating.
As long as it’s not being passed off as made by a human I don’t care. Most of the AI art I see being posted is specifically to communities for posting AI art, anyway.
