Ultraviolet light can kill almost all the viruses in a room. Why isn’t it everywhere?::Can special lightbulbs end the next pandemic before it starts?

  • Inevitable Waffles [Ohio]@midwest.social
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    8 months ago

    I worked for a company that made a UVC light system for sterilization. The amount of safety you have to build in so people wont nuke themselves makes them hard to use.Also, the bulbs we used were delicate and had issues constantly.

    • lud@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      Who the hell thought that an NFT festival was a good idea and unprotected UV lights?

      Maybe the organisers were exposed to gamma radiation lwhen they thought up the event.

    • maness300@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      What if, and hear me out,

      What if…

      What if… we just ran them when people weren’t in the room? 🤯

      Crazy what happens when you can come up with your own thoughts instead of parroting reddit comments ad nauseam.

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        8 months ago

        What if… we just ran them when people weren’t in the room?

        This is already a thing in many hospitals, and has been used extensively even before covid.

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      8 months ago

      And bleaching all materials in the room. And slowly destroying anything made of paper or plastic or wood.

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      8 months ago

      Joke aside, looks like they’re using a higher bandwidth of light, 222nm compared to more common 254nm uv for medical uses. It doesn’t penetrate the skin or eyes sufficiently to cause damage.

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    8 months ago

    “X can kill gems! Why don’t we use X everywhere?”

    X: Thing that can kill humans too. And/or cause cancer.

    See also:

    • Fire

    • chlorine gas

    • dehydration

    • Boiling water

    • Radiation

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    8 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Ultraviolet retained a small coterie of enthusiasts over the ensuing decades, focused narrowly on preventing transmission of tuberculosis — which has no reliably effective vaccine for adults — in its remaining hotbeds, like homeless shelters.

    The biggest test it received, the Tuberculosis Ultraviolet Shelter Study of 1997-2004, demonstrated that “upper room” UV, in which UV-emitting lamps are placed at least 6.9 feet above the floor where they can disinfect air without harming humans, was safe.

    It wasn’t — detective work from scholars including Linsey Marr, Jose-Luis Jimenez, and Katherine Randall in the middle of the pandemic determined that this conclusion was based on a misinterpretation of the Wellses’ research that had somehow persisted for decades in the medical profession.

    “This is the most difficult talk I’ve had to give in my career,” Jose-Luis Jimenez, a distinguished professor of chemistry at the University of Colorado, told the audience at the first International Congress on Far-UVC Science and Technology this past June.

    But 2020 was also an unusually brutal year for airborne disease: 49,783 Americans died from influenza in 2019, for instance (and none from Covid); 1 percent of that number is about 500 people, which starts to feel comparable to the air pollution cost Jimenez identifies.

    Jimenez favors using UV in very high-risk locations, such as hospitals, but worries that construction companies, schools, malls, and the like will seize on the potential of far-UV as an excuse not to invest in proper ventilation and filtration, leaving us with the ugly trade-off he identifies.


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  • RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip
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    8 months ago

    We use uv light stands in the hospital. We will shut down a room and run a uv sanitizer for a bit. It works in some instances but it’s not exactly something you can just leave running all the time. Everyone would probably have a sick tan tho… To go with their skin cancer…

  • curiousaur@reddthat.com
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    8 months ago

    Because it burns you. That’s the answer. It kills your skin cells and eyes the same way it kills the bacteria. Also, it is everywhere, it’s fucking outside. The sun. Fucking stupid. Idiots.

    Know what else kills bacteria? Bleach. So get chugging.

    So stupid.

  • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
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    8 months ago

    Pretty counterintuitive that in order to make UV less dangerous for humans, you can make it more ionizing. Anyway, I’d expect problems with degradation/yellowing of plastics, bleaching of everything in range, and massive issues with indoor ozone and some other forms of air pollution

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    8 months ago

    This thread might be the worst example of “I didn’t read the article, but I’ll comment anyway” that I’ve seen.

    • Ace@feddit.uk
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      8 months ago

      Why isn’t it everywhere?

      because it sounds scary even though it actually isn’t, and people don’t want to read the science, they want to read one headline and give a reactionary uninformed response.

      the comments are exactly the same echoes as, “omg mobile phones use microwaves? those things that cook food? omg they must be cooking my brain, GIVING ME CANCER 😱😱😱”

  • Wahots@pawb.social
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    8 months ago

    Did anyone actually read the article? The only guy whose question wasn’t already answered by the article was the one about yellowed plastics, lol.