• Kanzar@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Ugh… yeah… guess it’s cheaper than chipping it. I do wonder how quickly the big N will ban people all using the same game ID.

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        10 months ago

        Maybe if you use the widely circulated ones.

        I can imagine plenty of people will start(have been) dumping rental carts from ie. the library.

        If those dumps loaded onto the mig are indistinguishable from the original and Nintendo starts banning those, they risk banning a lot of other legitimate players who also rented and played on those carts.

        Correct me if I’m wrong, but it didn’t use to be an issue to Nintendo because you had to install the xci and that was detectable. Now you can run the game off the cart directly.

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          10 months ago

          The MIG uses its own IDs from what I understand, and if they’re invalid (randomly generated) or used by others (not random and used by other MIG users) Nintendo will know, autodetect, and ban you

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            10 months ago

            Ah okay so I guess the mig can’t spoof ids. Then in any case it’s probably only a matter of time the console gets banned if it ever reaches the internet, which is worse than modding because now you have no way of updating the firmware for future games.

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              10 months ago

              To be fair, once your console gets banned you can get the firm upgrades pretty much freely from the Archives and won’t have to ever worry about any kind of “desync” that could Alert the Mothership.

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                10 months ago

                How would you install the firmware that you obtained from the Archives tho? Remember that the console for all intents and purposes is unmodded so Daybreak is not an option.

                Unlike previous handheld generations, system firmwares are no longer embedded into the game carts either so while a game can require a newer firmware, it does not come with an option to update offline afaik

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                  10 months ago

                  How would you install the firmware that you obtained from the Archives tho?

                  Fair point. To be also fair I’d consider that anyone who is considering still mainlining a Switch in 202X and would be any interested in a flashcart, it would be because their system is already modded.

                  Unlike previous handheld generations, system firmwares are no longer embedded into the game carts either so while a game can require a newer firmware, it does not come with an option to update offline afaik

                  I might be remembering wrong but I’ve found formware upgrades in carts such as FE3H and New Pokémon Snap. It’s not like they’re that heavy, so they can easily be added as payload to the cart.

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                    10 months ago

                    Fair point. To be also fair I’d consider that anyone who is considering still mainlining a Switch in 202X and would be any interested in a flashcart, it would be because their system is already modded.

                    Interesting point. Although quite the contrary, I’d think the flashcart mostly interests switch owners who didn’t mod their console for whatever reason. Eg. OLED owners, cost of modchip install, lack of access to reputable installers, risk of physical damages, voiding warranty, hassle of juggling cfw updates, etc.

                    I’m not sure what you mean by mainlining a switch means, but I’m a fairly new switch owner myself(late 2022). I bought the OLED at a discount not knowing the high costs associated with modding specifically the OLED model. (At the time it was upwards of $300CAD for modchip and install, and there were plenty of horror stories of how finicky it was) Had a flashcart been available at the time, I’d buy that in a heartbeat instead.

                    For people who didn’t mod and already own a library of games, a flashcart would’ve still been a cheap and good opportunity for people to discover new games they otherwise have missed or wouldn’t have bought either way.

                    I might be remembering wrong but I’ve found formware upgrades in carts such as FE3H and New Pokémon Snap. It’s not like they’re that heavy, so they can easily be added as payload to the cart.

                    I haven’t been able to find any resources online that suggest firmware is embedded onto the game carts at all. What you may have confused with is GAME UPDATES, which can be present on carts. The issue with your suggestion is two-fold:

                    1. By injecting a payload to the cart, you have to modify the game rom(xci) and thus invalidate the NCA signature. It is my educated guess(with no proof admittedly) that this is the reason that the switch failed to launch games when they tried to add updates and DLC onto the MIG. (OP’s video mentioned this in an update).

                    2. Even if point one wasn’t the case, the console does not know what to do with the firmware because there’s no mechanism to update from an offline source to the best of my knowledge. Even the Switch’s own maintenance mode requires internet connection to download a new firmware.