not helping lemmy’s extremist-leaning reputation guys

    • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      Self defense isn’t murder.

      When it gets into preemptive self defense…probably murder? But what if you are reasonably sure it will be too late to defend yourself later? Do you let yourself or those you love die? But people can weaponize that line of thinking in bad faith, they murder someone and say it was self defense because the other guy was definitely gonna do it. It seems too awful to allow, and yet for some people, it might be the only thing that stops them from getting killed. Clearly nobody should be expected to wait until the knife is in their neck to say, “well, at least I waited long enough to make sure I should have already done something”.

      A whole line of thinking that can be prevented by nazis not openly threatening rape, which is the real headline here.

    • GrymEdm@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      I’m going down in flames with you if need be. Wrong is wrong.

      • Martin Luther King Jr. “The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate…”

      I can see scenarios where violence becomes necessary, but not as vigilantes and it should be at the very end of the list.

    • Holyginz@lemmy.world
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      You literally refuse to understand the reasoning and will only see this at surface value. Things are approaching the level of fucked that can only be fixed with a come to Jesus moment (so to speak). If you can’t or won’t understand what is actually at stake and how dire things are, just do nothing on the sidelines and see how long it is before your starts to seem a LOT smaller than you thought it was.

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      5 days ago

      Yes, actually, there’s no obligation to extend the protections of the social contract to those actively attempting to destroy it.

      Why are you so invested in the rights of Nazis? They’re not people