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Ooo, native Wayland support, now only about half my software will be running through xwayland once Proton is updated as well.
Dont hold your breath. It’s just initial support. It’s still opt-in and I can’t see Valve using it with Proton by default unless they start supporting native Wayland clients in Gamescope
Finally, native Wayland support! Looking forward to when proton is updated with this. Good job to all the developers!
The fact that I don’t have to deal with lib32-gst-plugins-ugly/bad/ect is amazing, but I’ll have to keep 32 bit libraries for Team Fortress 2 and other online Source games.
All modules that call a Unix library contain WoW64 thunks to enable calling the 64-bit Unix library from 32-bit PE code. This means that it is possible to run 32-bit Windows applications on a purely 64-bit Unix installation. This is called the new WoW64 mode, as opposed to the old WoW64 mode where 32-bit applications run inside a 32-bit Unix process.
🦀🦀🦀
Come on Steam, show those 32-bit libs the door!
Not the political kind. The shared object kind.
Ok but now I am curious what the difference between 32 and 64 bit liberals would beSince they have longer words, 64-bit liberals would be more intellectual than 32-bit liberals. 32-bit liberals also have a term limit in 14 years.
So in the future no need to install 32 bit packages of wine in a 64 system??? 👀
Correcto. Which means Steam will probably drop 32 bit libs soon. Which means Ubuntu will stop shipping 32 libs. The era is truly coming to an end
codeweavers the true gigachad of Linux
they managed to make their anti-microsoft crusade a sustainable and profitable venture
Them and also collabora seem to be doing an amazing job!
difference between collabora anf libreoffice?
If you meant onlyoffice, then I think it promises better compatibility with ms office stuff and also itsinterface is closer to it, compared to libreoffice.
wait does collobora do more than onlyoffice? and if so why do many linux distribuitions pack libreofficd and not onlyoffice
Maybe there’s some confusion here.
Collabora is a company, they funded some work on OnlyOffice which is a FOSS office suite like LibreOffice. I think they also worked on making it web hostable like Google docs (through nextcloud?)
Edit: Apparently now there’s also collabora office suite?
OnlyOffice and LibreOffice are both very good. The former promises better compatibility with ms office files and has an easier interface imo. LibreOffice seems way more featureful
As for why fewer distros have onlyoffice in their repository, maybe because it’s relatively newer? Anyway, it’s available through flatpak and that’s how I use it. I haven’t tried Collabora online stuff
Heavy: killing you is full-time job now!
There is nothing “worth” running in wine, but it is good to know it exists, just to spite those choosing binary blobs.
Dunno fam, I like LAN partying 2001 games with old friends during our biannual meetups.
As a Linux gamer, I run just about everything in wine since proton uses wine.
I even run native games through Proton at this point since many native builds don’t work properly.
I have done that before as well. I had a native game that randomly stopped working after a borked update or something. I downloaded the proton version instead, and it worked perfectly.
How about this then. While your neighbors are using wine, it attracts more commercial attention to develop the open source projects that you do actually use. It’s so impactful that you measurably benefit directly from its contributions, like optimizations to the Linux kernel.
You don’t have to agree with it, but you cannot deny the increased investment in open source projects it causes.
For a painfully blatant example see: Steam Deck.
Also for the binary blob purists, how do you feel about all that closed source firmware underpinning your pure world? Isn’t it practically impossible to get completely open source firmware down to the silicon? And even then, do you trust the silicon? Are you running everything on FPGAs?
Hi! “Binary blob purist” here! Yes, it bothers us that so much firmware is proprietary, but we are working to fix that :).
It is possible to have fully free firmware on certain select devices.
The silicon is unchangeable, much like a chair is unchangeable. So being concerned about changing it isn’t really productive. But, RISCV looks promising and a good remedy to the issue of not knowing what it does.
FPGAs would be nice but they aren’t powerful enough yet.
But, at the same time, unless the silicon can make outside connections itself or modify behaviour (a la Intel ME), or has been updated with what is essentially software baked into it that can change it’s behaviour on the fly, I’d say it can be trusted to do the computing you tell it to do and nothing more (again, excluding those processors where we know that it doesn’t like those with the ME).
Wine nine you say? 🧐
Wine-ine-oh
They should have code-named this release “Brooklyn”.
Finally, a version that rhymes.
A truly fantastic update for our times!
Wine is not an emulniner?
🎉🎉🎉
Yet another major release that fails do support basic Win32 APIs available since Windows 95 properly.
🎉🎉🎉
It’s a miracle we have wine at all, reverse engineering an entire operating system isn’t easy. Be grateful for what we have (which is already enough to run a ton of software really well)
reverse engineering an entire operating system isn’t easy
Have you noticed the the NT / Windows XP source code was leaked years ago. There’s isn’t much of a need to “reverse engineering”, it’s just about reading their implementation and providing an alternative implementation that doesn’t copy code…
Removed by mod
Guess that rule was in place because some people would look at it and proceed to copy it. The rule should be “if you copy code from Microsoft you’ll be kicked from the project and the code removed”. While I see why this is place and what it protect the project from this is also a very big roadblock to the project’s evolution and a clear example of what’s wrong with it and why we still have compatibility issues.
That’s a lot of words to emphasize you don’t understand copyright law
If only there were ways to subvert copyright law…
Lol.
Imagine shooting yourselves in the foot like this.
Instead of leaving snide comments like this, you can use your head to open up an IDE, implement the features you want, and make a pull request. Keep it to yourself
Oh no, how dare he have higher standards!
Ask for a refund
Too bad time isn’t refundable. Free software is only free if you don’t factor in the time you spend making it work.
Wow, you’re the most entitled user of free software I’ve met in a while. Just buy a windows license next time.
Well at least I’m not here perpetuating the delusion that desktop Linux desktop is as user-friendly and productive for every use-case as Windows and macOS are. If one lives in a bubble and doesn’t to collaborate with others then native Linux apps might work and might even deliver a decent workflow. Once collaboration with Windows/Mac users is required then it’s game over – the “alternatives” aren’t just up to it.
Windows licenses are cheap and things work out of the box. Software runs fine, all vendors support whatever you’re trying to do and you’re productive from day zero. Sure, there are annoyances from time to time, but they’re way fewer and simpler to deal with than the hoops you’ve to go through to get a minimal and viable/productive Linux desktop experience.
It all comes down to a question of how much time (days? months?) you want to spend fixing things on Linux that simply work out of the box under Windows for a minimal fee. Buy a Windows license and spend the time you would’ve spent dealing with Linux issues doing your actual job and you’ll, most likely, get a better ROI.
Just buy a windows license next time.
Here’s the thing, I can get a legit Windows license by various means. I don’t need to go into microsoft.com and get it for 300$, a second hand windows machine with an old i5 CPU will sell for 50$ and that includes a valid Windows license. Computers selling on retail stores also include a Windows license, students can get them for free etc. what else?
Bro. Why are you even here, then? Use whatever works for you, clearly you don’t value Linux.
Oh yes, I value and like Linux a LOT… just not for desktop as it doesn’t deliver as everyone says it does. To be fair I believe that only someone who values Linux as much as I do would be comfortable to criticize what’s wrong with it.
For someone who keeps complaining about how much time you lost to Linux, you sure spend a lot of time complaining on Linux forums, bashing it.
Since when is having standards being ‘entitled’?
Just because something is free doesn’t mean it has to be janky.
So true.
linda belcher alrightttttttt
