• SayCyberOnceMore@feddit.uk
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    8 months ago

    the company said it would start turning off Manifest V2 extensions

    …in time for Black Friday & the holiday sales?

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    8 months ago

    It’d be great if Cloudflare sites supported Firefox. No matter what I do, it always gives me the “prove you’re a human” checkbox loop.

    • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
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      8 months ago

      Interesting. I use Firefox on everything at home, usually windows or android, and I rarely get those. Could it be one of your extensions? Proxy?

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        8 months ago

        No proxy. I’ve tried disabling the likely extensions with no change. It’s not the builtin anti-tracking stuff, either.

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        8 months ago

        You likely have a “better” IP address than OP. I have old DSL and new LTE, on the LTE I get captchas all the time, on DSL my experience was the same AS yours.

  • grue@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I have always used Firefox on all my devices, except for one: the Chromebook I was forced to buy because of compatibility with my college’s test proctoring spyware.

    On that device, not only did uBlock Origin quit working the other day, but today Chrome even kept disabling uBlock Lite with the error message that “This extension reloaded itself too frequently”. It could be some kind of legitimate bug, but it sure feels a lot like foul play on Google’s part.

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      8 months ago

      Just wait, there will be “features” that are mandatory on most sites, only supported in chrome.

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        8 months ago

        So download a user agent switcher and set it to show you as using chrome. This is what i do with firefox and i haven’t run across a site that thinks i’m using firefox.

      • bitwolf@lemmy.one
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        8 months ago

        I usually use a useragent switcher to bypass.

        But the teams website for example opens a Microsoft specific browser api so its annoyingly locked to Edge specifically on mobile.

  • aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Stopped using that garbage browser a couple of weeks ago. Hardened Firefox ftw. Just using stock Firefox isn’t enough if you’re concerned about your privacy on the internet btw. If all you’re looking for is an ad free experience tho, then stock Firefox should be enough.

    • Nalivai@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Firefox’s future isn’t looking good with all that layoffs and lost money. I am very scared that it might go the way of Opera, and then we will trully have nothing left.

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          8 months ago

          Those are made on Firefox engine. That is made and maintained by the company Mozilla. Which is experiencing those problems.
          It’s like those people who say that they don’t use chrome because it’s shit and breaks privacy, they use edge and brave.

          • aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            Firefox is a fully open source browser. Whether or not it fails and goes down doesn’t really matter, as its source code is out there for anyone to use, and build a browser off of it.

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              7 months ago

              It kinda does matter. It’s an enormously complicated project, and it’s possible that nobody will be able to be an ultimate fork if needed.

        • IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz
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          8 months ago

          All of those are still standing on Firefox’s shoulders and the actual rendering engine on the browser isn’t really trivial thing to build. Sure, they’re not going away, and likely Firefox will be around too for quite a while, but the world wide web as we currently know it is changing and Google and Microsoft are few of the bigger players pushing the change.

          If you’re old enough you’ll remember the banners ‘Best viewed with <this browser> on <that resolution>’, and it’s not too far off from the future we’ll have if the big players get their wishes. Things like google suite, whatever meta is offering and pretty much “the internet” as your Joe Average understands it wants to implement technology where it’s not possible to block ads or modify the content you’re shown in any other way. It’s not too far off from your online banking and other very much real life affecting services start to have boundaries in place where they require certain level of ‘security’ from your browser and you can bet that things which allow content modifying things, like adblocker, doesn’t qualify for the new standards.

          On many places it’s already illegal to modify or tamper DRM protected content in any ways (does anyone remember libdvdcss?) and the plan is to include similar (more or less) restrictions to the whole world wide web, which would say that we’ll have things like fediverse who allow browsers like firefox and ‘the rest’ like banking, flight/ticket/hotel/whatever booking sites, big news outlets and so on who only allow the ‘secure’ version of the browser. And that of course has very little to do with actual security, they just want control over your device and what content is fed to you, regardless if you like it or not.

  • Zier@fedia.io
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    8 months ago

    Welcome all you shiny new Firefox users. Get a cup of a hot beverage and enjoy your freedom.

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    8 months ago

    I’ve been dual welding browsers since chrome came out. The second they started talking about deprecating manifest 2, I test drove Vivaldi and Brave. Now they’re set up as my second.

    I tried to convert over to Libwolf, But it absolutely massacres my passkeys.

    I plan to main Firefox until they do something stupid which I think is inevitable with their recent statements.

    I’m just hoping that by the time The other Firefox shoe drops there will be something else viable on the market. I don’t know how long Brave and Vivaldi can hold out with chromium changing underneath them

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      8 months ago

      I wouldn’t trust Brave as it has a poor track record for privacy and is often used as a crypto miner behind the scenes.

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        8 months ago

        That’s a fairly long time ago now and the crypto token crap is off by default. As far as I know they are the only browser with a paid development team that is trying to combat YouTube ads. And they’re blocking technique is unique amongst the options we have. If it comes down to using Brave for YouTube, I have no problem with doing that.

        • darreninthenet@lemmy.sdf.org
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          The only thing stopping me moving to Brave is the awful bookmark sync implementation… when I used it for a small period in the past it was keeping some I’d long deleted on other devices etc

          I also would prefer it to implement bookmark separators (like both Vivaldi and FF do) but I can live without those if they sorted out the sync.

        • Traister101@lemmy.today
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          Yup. I always get shat on for mentioning that the crypto crap is off by default. I quite like the idea behind it, have the browser send you ads and then allow you to choose what to do with the earnings but in practice it doesn’t work so well sadly

          • rumba@lemmy.zip
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            8 months ago

            Yeah, sadly, bringing Brave into any browser conversation is like saying, “Please take a dump on my face.” And I get some of the vitriol. Brave would likely sell you down the river for $7 if they thought they could get away with it, but so would two-thirds of the browsers out there. Even Firefox, the last true holdout at the moment, is hungry. I hope they find a rev stream before they do something drastic.

            I like the concept of letting you choose the ads you see and earning some of the compensation. But it needs to happen at the advertiser level. I’d like a world where I pay a little to the browser, a little to the originator, and maybe get a small pool to dedicate to a site or cause I want to patronize.

    • bitwolf@lemmy.one
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      8 months ago

      Oof I was considering LW but now am worried about the passkeys. Was that from an import or a remove and recreate?

      Been meaning to try Zen but maybe I should test more before trying either

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      8 months ago

      Been using Firefox for as long as I can remember now. Never had a reason to switch away, and I’m feeling rather vindicated.

      • letsgo@lemm.ee
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        8 months ago

        There was a period some years ago where Firefox and Chrome were leapfrogging each other: Firefox would get slow and crap so I’d switch, then Chrome would get slow and crap and I’d switch back to FF, and so on. I’ve been on Chrome for quite a while it seems, until this development with uBO, well for me the internet is unusable without a shitblocker, so that’s the end of Chrome. Thankfully FF is up to the job.

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        I switched to Chrome probably a decade ago, because at the time it was significantly faster. I switched to chromium at some point and ended up back on Firefox when Google’s password manager stopped working on every browser except Chrome. Firefox is noticeably faster these days and doesn’t crash as often.

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    8 months ago

    I don’t understand why all these chrome derivatives and firefox don’t just band together and extend manifest v3 with some vendored standardised extension that addresses the limitations.

    Browsers do that for CSS and JavaScript features already. An extension could just check if the browser supports the “unlimited filters” option and use it if its available.

    I have never researched it but heard that the permissions of manifest v3 are much better for privacy.

    I am in favor of removing manifest v2 if the vendored extension becomes a reality.

    Browsers already have too much complexity, lines of code and feature creep.

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    8 months ago

    Chrome is the abblock-block? You might have outblocked me today, but I’ll firefox you away!