• SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    No, I heard your gotcha. But the reality is standing to the side telling people “I told you so” is just sticking your head in the sand. You are enabling a worse genocide just for the sake of moral masturbation.

    You might as well tell the people feeding the homeless they are “accepting homelessness” as well. Amounts to the same bullshit logic.

    But when Trump enables a full scale genocide, you can pay yourself on the back and say “I had nothing to do with that”.

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      8 days ago

      There is no worse genocide. It’s already supported to the hilt. You just support it.

      Probably shouldn’t have done that, huh?

      Go ahead and try to redeem your soul and see you can become a benefit to society instead.

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          Why yes, the work I do is actually beneficial, thank you for mentioning it.

          Next year’s Palestinians will face the same level of US support of their genocide as it does today, but liberals such as yourself might do something against it.

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            Oh it can and will be worse, and you know it. Just be honest - you don’t really care about Palestinians. You’d go to Gaza and murder them with your own hands if that’s what was needed to accelerate the collapse of the western world. Or maybe you’re just dumb AF and have been duped by the accelerationists. Either way, I’m glad you don’t need to get your own hands dirty and I hope the rise and fall of full-blown fascism is all you hope it’ll be.

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              Oh it can and will be worse, and you know it.

              No, I do not harbor your confusions about how supporting someone complicit in the Biden-Harris genocide is somehow being against genocide.

              Be better and demand better. Try to redeem yourself.

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                This was not my first time being forced to vote for the lesser of two evils, and I’m not dumb enough to think it was my last.

                Enjoy the self-righteousness for a few months.

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        8 days ago

        I hope that sense of moral superiority helps you sleep at night. I hope that you are right, and that the Palestinian people won’t face a worse wrath because of your folly. And I truly hope that the road to hell isn’t paved with your good intentions. Because the way I see it, letting Trump win may well be the bell tolling on humanity, and those who stood to the side and didn’t help will have all that blood on their hands.

        Thanks for the concern for my soul, but I would gladly damn it to prevent the problems we are about to face. Maybe when it gets bad, you will be willing to get yours dirty to help for a change.

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          I have no trouble sleeping, as I have been consistently against genocide and demanded better. It was y’all who took the gamble and lost.

          May you someday redeem yourself after doing some self-reflection.

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            I too have been consistently against genocide, I have protested, I have called senators, I have donated time, money, medical supplies, and food.

            I didn’t gamble and lose, I fought the best I can, and will continue to do so.

            I hope you do more than “demand better”, because all your demands amount to is pissing down the backs of Palestinians and telling them it’s raining.

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              I too have been consistently against genocide

              Yet you are responding from a pro-Harris angle, i.e. a pro-genocide angle. Harris has been lockstep in line with the genocide and the admin’s propaganda around it.

              I have protested

              Have you organized?

              I have called senators

              They don’t care. That means nothing. This is how liberals funnel energy into the void.

              I have donated time, money, medical supplies, and food.

              I’m glad.

              I didn’t gamble and lose

              Did you bet on pro-genocide Harris? I think you did. I think you put yourself in a camp with her.

              I hope you do more than “demand better”, because all your demands amount to is pissing down the backs of Palestinians and telling them it’s raining.

              You should demand better since it is such a low baseline. Better like, you think genocide is a red line rather than a bargaining chip.

              Try to redeem yourself.

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                You are willing to cut off your nose to spite your face. Unwilling to see the bigger picture that your actions support a worse scenario beyond the single issue that your actions will have done nothing to help.

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                You know, around the point you mistook me for a liberal, I realized something. Nowhere in this thread have you shown an once of concern or sympathy for Palestine. You have only tried to admonish others and pat yourself on the back. If I knew nothing else about your character, that would be enough.

                Live well, maybe one day you’ll find the redemption you prescribe to others.