• infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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    I’m not sure that fitting Earthlike habitats in giant spaceships would make sense without limitless exponential growth. Wouldn’t it be more feasible to put something on the surface of a planet?

    No matter how advanced our technology gets, we are not going to get around the basic constraints on energy.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Hopium huffers will smugly chant “asteroid mining!” as the answer to your questions, in much the same way that “monorail!” was chanted during that one Simpsons episode.

  • xj9 [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    I don’t think capital can sustain projects of this magnitude. Space is too harsh of an environment for delulu. We can hardly grapple with the idea that our actions on earth have consequences because of our condition. I like space stuff and I even like to create designs of starships, but I don’t think we’re in a position to reach for the stars just yet. Even if I’m wrong, we can’t allow space fascism get started either. There is probably life out there and if space capitalism finds them, they’ll try to pull another indigenous genocide and invent new forms of xenophobia to justify it.

    None of our problems are technological. We have massive people problems. Building a new billions of dollar machine or trillions of dollar space station isn’t going to disrupt the imperial core. The Gray Techno Fash won’t suddenly become humanists because space.

    Space life can be fun to think about, but techno futurism is a liberal fetish and tends to result in liberal fantasies if you don’t decolonize your mind.

    https://readsettlers.org tbh

  • whotookkarl@lemmy.world
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    We should be exploring both options, exploration can often lead to unexpected discoveries and technological advancement.

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    How to survive in space: Develop ways to survive in space only first. Once you manage that all the other problems are trivial compared and you don’t have a single point of failure (aka our planet) anymore. Isn’t that obvious?

  • Eugenia@lemmy.ml
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    Huge sci-fi lover here. But at the same time, colonization of space for humans is possibly impossible without avatars. The human body evolved here, and it’s a vessel that works here the best. To colonize other worlds, it’s more economically viable to send machines, create biologically synthesized new species (taking dna from local species there), and then transfer consciousness to them. Similar with Avatar, but without having to have the spaceships arrive in the planet full of humans. Humans remain on earth, and they project their consciousness somewhere else, in an instant due to entanglement.

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    Terraforming other planets would be astronomically more challenging than fixing our own planet and we don’t seem to be able to get our shit together to do that. Even if we are capable of terraforming other planets, it would take many centuries at minimum. O’Neal cylinders are far more likely to work once we start industrializing the moon.

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      If the colonization strategy is the Moon then Mars, I expect humanity would have the technology needed to colonize Mars easily while terraforming occurs.

      The problem with an O’Neil Cylinder is bringing up enough processed material to build one.

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        The problem with an O’Neil Cylinder is bringing up enough processed material to build one.

        One possible solution is a moon base. The moon is full of titanium and iron.

        And then you could launch the stuff out of a weaker gravity well with no air resistance.

  • muzzle@lemm.ee
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    Genetically modify ourselves so that we can live both in zero gravity (and maybe survive short exposure to vacuum) and on other planets.