Am I happy that socialism is infiltrating the Vatican? Or worried that Catholicism will infect socialism?
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Listen, Papa Frank, you can’t really claim to follow the teachings of Christ without already being a little Marxist yourself.
Uh, has Mr. Pope read any Marx?
Highly unlikely. Hell, many so-called “Marxists” have not.
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Yeah but thats just the opium masses crap. Christian Socialism is a thing. Case in point Ceasar Chavez and the sheer amount of work he did for the labour movements. The two systems are compatible.
Marx’s view of communism doesn’t inherently ban religion. His view of religion was that it was a tool by the ruling classes to maintain the status quo against the oppressed, and that under communism religion wouldn’t hold any political power because, by his words, the conditions that allowed religion to hold political power such as inequality wouldn’t be present anymore. But he didn’t call for the abolition of religion or that religion couldn’t exist at all in a communist society, that was more of a Marxist-Leninist way of thinking.
It is a tool by the ruling classes, but alongside a lot of other tools. I don’t know Marx view on religion in any deep sense, but I always understood hisvieww as religion emerging as a coping mechanism in some ways, or emerging as a coping mechanism, or just a byproduct of the human experience maybe…?, he does say religion is the heart in a heartless world, etc.
and maybe that’s how it becomes a tool, co-opted and utilized for class interests.
Marx literally wrote against enforced atheism in “the Jewish question”(a very unfortunate name in hindsight) which was a defense of Jewish communists keeping their religious and cultural identity.
Honestly it’s time christians actually started following the teachings of christ again.
What do you mean again?
Jesus Christ hated rich people; his whole mantra was about sharing and helping the poor. In fact, the church used to help the sick and the poor at first.
