• /home/pineapplelover@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    I’ve encountered so many AI generated videos that now I have to depend on view count since they removed dislike. And even view count doesn’t work as well because people click on just to see why there are high view counts, turns out it’s an AI video with high view count. Absolutely terrible practice. Youtube knows, they’re not stopping

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      3 months ago

      YouTube har made everyone using AI in their video declare it, but in not sure it matters when it comes to being pushed out.

      Source: I was playing around with autogenerating YouTube shorts, YouTube did not make it easy

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        3 months ago

        Alright now how do I filter out that A.I content. Chances are if you search up a tech question, there’s an A.I video made from scraping websites and bot TTS

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    3 months ago

    Hmm at a glance I dont see a major issue here, my concern would be that I dont click on vids with shit numbers so they are now on a more equal footing.

    But it is better for people not to be so focused on numbers like removing number of likes on Instagram.

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      I don’t know what’s up with the algorithm pushing these lately. If it’s a video with 4 views from a channel with no subscribers I’m probably not interested in it. Sometimes they have a good thumbnail/title so I give them a chance but 9/10 times it’s terrible. Also often extremely right wing for whatever reason.

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      But it is better for people not to be so focused on numbers like removing number of likes on Instagram.

      Is my mental health really something I want Google managing?

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        3 months ago

        They are not managing so much as they are eliminating a likely issue for users and the public.

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              When Google removed the dislikes from youtube videos, one of the lies they told was it was for the users(or uploader’s) mental health.

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                Prominent youtubers came out and specifically said that they found it a good measure for their mental health to not have the focus on dislikes. Fairly certain one of the vlogbrothers did. They may not agree with it completely but said it was a positive.

                I dislike it because it was a good measure of if I should click on a video or not.

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                  Except that the uploader can still see the downvote count. It was just removed so that corporations wouldn’t be embarrassed when they put out an unpopular trailer or product.

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      3 months ago

      Wouldn’t the YouTube creator need to see views for ad revenue? Are they removing them for viewers or creators too?

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      I don’t mind seeing vids with small numbers (many are genuinely cool) but I avoid 500k and above (except music) because the mainstream is mostly clickbait.

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    3 months ago

    How about you test marking videos as watched across devices so I don’t have the same shit pushed back at me all the time.

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        I am using a pihole and I still have this problem. I’m logged in. I’m seeing videos I watchef last week or two months ago. Or yesterday. They are being resuggedted and do not show as watched if I go to that channel’s page. It’s infuriating.

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        Interesting thought, might have to dig into that. Hadn’t considered it messing with play history.

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      HOW ABOUT YOU STOP SHOWING ME ALREADY WATCHED VIDEOS IN GENERAL?! Why fill my home feed with shit I’ve seen already? I literally have to click (…), click (not interested), click (why?), click (I’ve already seen the video) FOR EVER SINGLE VIDEO I EVER WATCHED ON YT.

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    Why? Is everything going to shit? Like counts, view counts, dislikes … I suppose it won’t change anything for me on reVanced, but still… why?

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    In the future you’ll pay $900/mo to stare at a blank page.

    And you’ll have to because all the free sites are entirely ads.

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        Just try it and see how your new cyborg hand DRM prevents unauthorized body modifications.

        Also, scientists are already at work finding ways to inject advertisements directly into your brain.

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      You joke but like, they are already pushing a twitch style sub model pretty hard already with the youtube “private sub” system that creators can do, it grants you access to videos that the creator marked as a subscription only, which is basically the same thing, as it shows you the video, and a tiny “sub only” label, and when you try to open it it brings you to the sub page.

      I forsee in the future youtube moving to a fully monetary model with only brand issued content being “free” and everything else requiring youtube premium

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    I don’t understand why they on such a self destruct path?! I already barely use this fucking platform anymore because of how shitty it has become already, and now they want to bait me into watching some low views garbage on top of all that? WHY?!

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      Because when you get pissed off at one shitty video and click off it to find a better one, that’s free real estate in which to double your ads.

      And what are you gonna do? Go to Peertube? YouTube is too gigantic to have a real competitor no matter how much we try. It is a beast so massive and bloated at this point that we just can’t kill it without legislative interference. And Google knows damn well that they’re basically the only game in town so they aren’t afraid of significant user backlash.

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        There is a breaking point, eventually. YouTube’s trajectory is gonna make next quarter’s revenue great, but eventually something else will pick up user’s attention instead.

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      That’s their end goal: no choice whatsoever, you watch 30 minutes of ads, followed by the 30 second video the algorithm wants you to watch (which is also an ad), 30 more minutes of ads, and so on.

      And, since they also own chrome, you can’t go to any other page without first spending at least six hours watching youtube.

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      Let’s just remove all video metadata including author. You just get video that is unskippable and you have to watch it (and ads) before getting a new video. Webcam required to track your eyeballs and the video will only play while you are looking at the screen.

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    this would essentially kill my method of viewing videos on the platform, this isn’t a boost to interaction they think it will be, it will ultimately result in me watching less videos as I won’t have the ability to decipher trash from good, so I’ll just stick with content creators that I am used to and no longer branch out like I currently do.

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    You know why they might be hiding upload dates? My theory is, Youtube doesn’t really want you looking at new stuff. (Very apparent by the algorithm) they want you looking at specific news stories, and specific content but not constantly seeking new uploads from independents.

    But that is just a theory a plain theory. Thanks for watching.

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      I hate how now when I watch a bunch of videos from a creator, my YouTube feed ends up only having that creators videos, like yeah I’m enjoying this person, but I do like to watch other things as well.

      It feels like I’m being forced into an echo chamber.

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        I can’t even use my home screen due to my Google account settings. What i’l do is do a search by date and subscribe to any good channels I like to ensure I get a curated feed for me on Youtube.

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        forced into an echo chamber.

        Yes, it does that.

        Using YouTube on a new account or through one of the alternatives will result in a wildly different feed. I was recently shocked by seeing the default non-curated feed on YouTube.

        Absolutely none of the content was interesting to me; most of it was directly anger inducing political crap or just plain brainrot. I would definitely not visit that shit page ever again if the default feed was my first impression. I don’t know if it’s supposed to be a right wing breeding ground by now, but it sure isn’t as balanced as I would have expected.

        My regular YT feed is obviously much more interesting to me, and I can use it to find new content, but since I don’t want to wait for the ads, I now only watch my own subscriptions on a different frontend, which of course will create an even smaller echo chamber.

        I get how a curated feed can benefit the user, but YouTube is just not making it possible. It will only show (rage) engaging content and without the dislike function, you can only decide not to watch the crap or get shown more crap until you do like it.

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        The one that gets me is watching a new creator to me on a subject I’m interest in e.g. gaming and it turns out that said creator so has a right wing nut job catalogue and that’s all that fella my feed for the next two weeks.

        My time is limited I just want to relax on my down time and ain’t interested in rage bait but that’s all yhe algorithm seems to want to show me every chance it gets by me clicking on a new name

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    Thanks Youtube, I hate it. Like I can see some arguments for taking away the view counter, even if I think it’s a bad decision. But the date the video was uploaded? Who does that even help? I guess Youtubers will either need to start properly dating their videos or we’ll just have to use context clues to figure out when a video was uploaded.

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      But the date the video was uploaded? Who does that even help?

      There’s gaming content that expires within a month, especially with frequent balance and other game changes, like with League of Legends. I won’t watch a video that’s weeks old because what’s being featured probably doesn’t work anymore after a patch.

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    YT Exec - /rips massive line of coke off Intern’s ass/ - “Remove View Count”

    YT Engineer - “But Sir, users will hate that. It will actively make the user experience worse”

    YT Exec - “That’s the goddamn point!”

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    Good thing we have Youtube alternatives. The two biggest ones are Odysee & Rumble. Also we have Peertube. The problem with Peertube is people don’t use it. So it haves less content on it.

    If you’re going to watch Youtube, use a Frontend. For same reason Privacy Guides don’t have Grayjay on it.

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        Rumble isn’t any better. It’s where my dad gets his COVID conspiracy material after folks got kicked off other platforms.

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        Its got a lot of those types for sure, but it has the most normal content of any alt video platform.

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        That’s what happens to all alternatives at the start, only really the content that isn’t suitable for the main platform migrates there. It requires a mass exodus because of something major, like what happened with reddit 3rd party apps or twitter/X & the block change , to get enough regular users there.

        Lemmy literally exists because Dessalines, a “long time Marxist-leninist” decided that “Fuck the while supremacist Reddit admins” and made an alternative to host r/communism because reddit is run by an “anti-tankie scum”.