• corship@feddit.de
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      10 months ago

      Epic games is retarded.

      I bought rdr when it releases in PC there, and oh wonder the pic port wasn’t good at the beginning.

      Tried to get it to run for the hours, including the launcher update and stuff like that.

      No luck, and no refund because I “played” for now than two hours…

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        Not that I’m really trying to defend Epic here, bust most stores with a two hour policy have a manual review process you can request, where you explain that your time spent was fiddle farting around trying to get it to work, no no avail.

        Most of the time they make an exception.

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    10 months ago

    Because they have more money than you and, according to the US legal system, that’s all that matters.

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    It’s their accounts, you just have access to them. They can close the whole thing tomorrow.

    I don’t even want to know what will happen when the valve guy retires. A publicly owned company that could just shut down tomorrow. Many gaming publishers are aware, having their own launchers. Are you?

    I’m telling you, root server, self-hosted everything and FOSS. If you can’t do your things with that, it ain’t worth doing anyway.

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    10 months ago

    Honestly, as somebody who really loved the early era of Android gaming, I’m really disappointed how ephemeral it all was between the Play Store delistings and the absolutely atrocious approach to backwards compatibility in the Android OS.

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      Piracy is always justified. I don’t do it because I’m afraid of consequences and my fear of fucking up is greater than my desire to watch TV, but if you’re confident in your abilities, not only is it justified, it’s imperative. 50 cents out of every dollar you spend on media goes into a new boat for a semi-sentient suit and tie. Another 25 goes directly into the pocket of some politician. 24 goes to a company that provides the service of restricting access to that media. One cent is split between all the people who worked on it.

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    10 months ago

    They’re not purchases, they’re leases.

    Edit: it’s actually that you purchase access to their license of the media.

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      It’s also a private company and they can do whatever they want on their platform and their property.

      It’s like renting space in an apartment … don’t be surprised if the landlord decides to change the agreements and do things you don’t like. You’re renting things, you don’t own anything.

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    A “purchase” or “buy” option, especially when you get an invoice, should ALWAYS mean ownership of the product.

    A “borrow” or “rent” option is one that you expect to have to return the product.

    Google can’t have it both ways. They either sold people software or they rented it out. Since it was never advertised or marketed as the Google Play Rental Library, they should be forced to give people the products they paid for.

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      Yup, I’ve said it a million times, it needs to be made flatly illegal to use language that implies ownership if the company has any method of revoking your ownership of that product in the future. These threads always get the same libertarians that show up in discussions about non-functional slack fill saying “it’s not illegal, so what’s the problem?” The problem is that it isn’t illegal. Imagine if Toyota could come grab your car from your driveway, because even though you paid it off, subclause 74 of section G(2) says that the company retains the right to repossess property made by them at any time for any reason. You didn’t read a 200 page contract at the dealership when you bought the car, you just trusted that they wouldn’t fuck you. Toyota would get their ass reamed in court if they tried that, so why are Google and Microsoft and Sony and Steam allowed to do it?

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      As far as im concerned, the equivalent here, should be a raw downloadable file. Much like how music purchases work.

      Anything other than that simply isn’t “buying”

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        I recall purchasing Photoshop for Android, before it became Lightroom for Android.

        It was as close to the desktop Photoshop as you could get, and it wasn’t cheap.

        Google (or adobe) took it out of the play store, effectively cutting customers off and preventing them from installing it on new devices.

        Fortunately, I was rooted at the time and backed up the APK, which allowed me to use it for years longer and on newer devices. But the experience really had be second guessing whether I should keep “buying” apps on the play store.

        There are quite a few other instances where games and apps I purchased simply disappeared. Such an unethical business model.

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    Because you signed (digitally) an agreement that lets them do that.

    Pirate everything.

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        Don’t buy games on Steam or Valve Corporation, they make you sign the User Agreement that legally waves your rights and ownership of games.

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          Actually, Steam is usually one of the best places when it comes to refunds. The process is simple, and they’re willing to make exceptions to the rules. And the company is run by one of the few CEOs in the gaming industry who seem to actually understand gaming.

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            They literally had to be sued by multiple jurisdictions to even offer refunds. The cult of Valve needs to die.

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            AU lawsuit against Valve proves Valve didn’t want to refund their customers. Valve is guilty of this violation of Australia law. Many people who used Steam before 2010 tell people they were never given refunds oran option for refunds.

            Valve is not good guys, they fought the Australia government to the very top to not pay or offer refunds. They are greedy.

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            10 months ago

            And a large portion of the steam community will be super sad if Gaben retires or passes away. We can only hope it continues to be run as well as it has been over the past 15 years.