• interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    I don’t care at all. You can take plastic from my cold dead hands hippies !

    First it was micro plastics, now it’s nano plastics, next they’re going to make number go up by counting individual plastic molecules.

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      10 months ago

      Alright, old man Carlin. Settle down. Units are used for measurements, indeed. Very post-woke indeed.

      One must hate the machine, the machine that feeds you GMOs, the machine that feeds you plastic, the machine that enslaves you go willing subservience, for it is of bullshit and should go the way of the dodo.

      Don’t me a lil bitch trell.

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        10 months ago

        You can easily supercede plastics by inventing a better material. But no I’m not going to carry water in fucking clay pots.

        And if individually wrapped fruits means fewer of them end up in the dumpster then anti-plastic ideology would end up worse for the environement.

        If you want to do somethibg to reduce plastic, just end the fishing industry instead of forcing us all to use disgusting paper straws for symbolic reasons.

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            10 months ago

            Metal bottles need plastic liners not to conraminate and spoil their contents.

            Glass containers waste tons of energy from extra transport, to needing so much water and remelting when the inevitably chip and and break.

            We’re using plastic because it’s by a wide margin the best packaging material we have.

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              10 months ago

              I was talking about a resuable glass water bottle. this is what I use, I’ve had the same one for five years now, just saying

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        10 months ago

        You follow his dumb with your own dumb by thinking there’s anything wrong with GMOs.

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          10 months ago

          With all GMO’s? No. But certain pesticides, certain over uses of antibiotics, yee olde teflon.

          I’m not a big fan of throwing chemicals at the wall to see what sticks.

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            10 months ago

            I’m confused. Pesticides are not GMOs. Teflon is not a GMO. Antibiotics are not GMOs. They might all be used alongside GMOs, but they aren’t themselves GMOs, which are perfectly safe and rigorously tested.

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    10 months ago

    Oh boy I sure do love plastic with my water.

    Realistically though, is there any way to really filter out these?

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    10 months ago

    Stapleton said she now relies more on filtered water at her home in New Jersey.

    But study co-author Beizhan Yan, a Columbia environmental chemist who increased his tap water usage, pointed out that filters themselves can be a problem by introducing plastics.

    “There’s just no win,” Stapleton said.

    Oh, man.

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      I’ve been saying this to people for a long time. Here in country, most water filters are based on charcoal and a final filtering element. That element used to be made of cellulose and other organic materials, but in the last decade, they started coming with that element made of polypropylene, until all the cellulose ones disappeared from the market. Just imagine your water passing though a porous layer of plastic, like a rigid sponge… this is a serious microplastic source.

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        10 months ago

        You’re talking like .01% as much plastic use per liter as plastic bottle water packs. Is that not…much much better?

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          I’m not sure how much microplastics are released in that way. It can be better than bottles, but if we used non plastic materials for so long, and it worked fine, I see no reason to put plastic in there.

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          Not necessarily. It just requires excitation at a molecular level. You can get creative with your source. They have been playing around with low energy methods like LED or even just using the sun, geothermal, etc.

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            10 months ago

            Yes, I’m aware of different way to distill, but if this were to work in a home/commercial setting, it needs to be accessible/affordable.

            I’d personally love to get a home distiller, but I read they were very expensive to run :(

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              I was about to write back that we are not far off the advances to make these affordable and then did a google search and found that you can get a distilled unit on Amazon for $180 that is capable of making a gallon in 5 hours for about $.45 worth of electricity. That is far less than what it costs to buy distilled water at the store, which is around $1 a gallon. If you look at this from a break-even analysis, you technically start to reap the rewards of ownership after about 800 uses since the first 400 uses basically cost you $1.45 per gallon, then the next 400 costs you $.45 per gallon, but you are recouping that extra cost over the $1 retail price, so by the 800th use, you are getting water at less than half the price of the store.

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                A gallon is not much though, not for a family. If you have to double or triple that amount, the electricity costs will really add up. If you’re talking European electricity costs, you might as well drink expensive wine instead 😂

                If cost was more in line with traditional filters, then it may be a more accessible option. But electricity costs are only going up.

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    10 months ago

    I wonder how the refillable plastic 5 gallons are with plastic, we need to go back when they were made of glass

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    10 months ago

    ”The International Bottled Water Association said in a statement: “There currently is both a lack of standardised [measuring] methods and no scientific consensus on the potential health impacts of nano- and microplastic particles. Therefore, media reports about these particles in drinking water do nothing more than unnecessarily scare consumers.”

    Fuck capitalism - “no don’t be too cautious, just consume until we can finally prove what tiny particles accumulated in your organs can do. How bad can it be?”

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      10 months ago

      This is the same attitude the US Food and Drug administration takes. A product can only be scrutinized if a new ingredient is proven to be harmful.