I know and can accept the response that say I should register to X site if I want more activity. I do plan to, least with Reddit, just biding some time before I make yet the 20th disposable e-mail and probably the 100th account before it gets banned again if I cross a glass person. Glass person being someone who’s so fragile on opinions and things that they’ll scream ‘BAN THEM BAN THEM!’.
I’ve been on KBin Social, Lemmy World (least 2 dedicated accounts), KBin Run, Mastodon, Blue Sky .etc
And I’d stay for a good while but I also found myself bored immediately. I check for questions to answer, it’s the same questions I’ve seen days and weeks prior. I check around for things that are reported and they’ll be hours old and some of them can be years old.
I love the idea of the Fediverse, I like some of the features that are implemented. Especially when you do ask questions on here and you’re allowed to expand on it. Unlike AskReddit for example, they don’t really like that and will remove your post because explaining what your question is about and backing it with an example is just unacceptable to them.
I don’t know. 43,000+ people sounds a lot on paper, but in practice, it feels like you’re dealing with 50 people at any given day.
It happen to me, pixelfed, dedicated networks about history… And nothing happen… And I’m about of 3 years active in fediverse
dedicated networks about history
What are those?
Yep
Do you guys feel like the federation hurts Lemmy?
Like I see its benefits, but for an average user, the feel of Lemmy as an app is less intuitive than reddit
Lemmy currently has 45k monthly active users: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats
Centralized alternatives:
- Discuit has less than 250: https://discuit.net/DiscuitMeta/post/9JPo3q0m
- Tildes doesn’t have numbers, but based on activity, it seems similar to Discuit
- Blue Dwarf has 50
There was a thread yesterday on /r/RedditAlternatives talking about “how do you attract users to a new alternatives”, most of the comments where about how difficult it is: https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1g4zcdi/for_those_of_you_who_started_your_own_alternative/
Based on this, I would say that Lemmy allowing everyone to open a server helps in that regard. Instance admins are more confident in the platform as they have control on this. Users trust admins.
I do, but only because the UX around federated entities isn’t great at the moment. There’s no doubt that it could be made way more intuitive and streamlined for the average user, and that more effort could be put into migration between federated entities so that it doesn’t feel like as much of a chore to jump between instances. The average user won’t care about federation, and they just want to quickly get some content.
migration between federated entities so that it doesn’t feel like as much of a chore to jump between instances.
Migration takes two clicks from the account settings, are you referring to something else?
Post something then. Go to whatever your niche sub is and post on it. People will see it and you might get some engagements. I recently posted in !knives@sopuli.xyz and !geocaching@lemmy.world and got engagement.
yes! I posted a similar question in a diff community and someone responded: " be the change you want to see". that’s pretty much all we can do! :)
I’d like to not to.
I would much prefer seeing other people build as well, see what they bring up and whatnot. I’ve tried before on creating communities to moderate and all I’d feel like is being some of those Reddit moderators who moderate an absurd amount of subreddits.
That’s not what I want.
No.
I have actual internet friends here. People who, based solely on their efforts and words and interactions, align with my own beliefs and ideals and help me temper and adjust accordingly as time goes on. Adults. I’d happily stay like this or with more, similar people, growing slowly and legitimately.
Agreed. The past year has been a great change from other social media personally. I was Reddit only for the prior 7 or so years and Lemmy feels like a time hop back to pre-dystopic Internet days. I approach it more like my favorite forums from the 90’s-00’s.
Less content and users are ok when it leads to more civil engagement’s.
Same here. I find lemmy very relaxing. Multiple times a day I’ll see people admit they misunderstood and upvoting each other. It’s quite refreshing. Sure people still be people but. It feels like we care and aren’t throwing trash on the floor. Whereas Reddit everyone will wipe their ass on your nose.
I firmly believe that the reddit takeover was a part of the grand region destabilization plan to sew discord and resentment in our society by foreign powers. I caution that I am not unaware that it is exactly what or alphabet agencies have been doing to the rest of the world.
Communication among humans is the only defense. Cheers to you, friend! Thanks for contributing to the conversation.
I was digging through old foot lockers from my army days, a while back, and found an old AOL 2.0 CD. I did not toss it into the fire, however. Fond memory friend, thanks
I also have fond memories of those AOL days. When we knew it was real people we were interacting with. What a world of difference now. Glad you made it here! Cheers.
You are on the list now, dawg. Another real person who I shall look forward to conversing with in the future. Exciting! Gotta assign you a color, hmmmm how do you feel about chartreuse?
Fuck yeah. I’m in man. That is damn near my favorite color. You got the touch. Always nice to meet good ass people.
Yes. Same old faces every time gets old
register on X site
No, not that one.
Yes.
Personally I don’t find a huge difference with reddit and threadiverse, at least for larger subs. Sure, on paper there are hundreds of comments, but most are the same tired decade old memes. You can predict what the comment sections are gonna be like from the title alone. At worst you get similar comments here, but you don’t have to dig through hundreds of comments before finding something worthwhile.
Since the vast majority of website users are minimally engaged, I would love for a few more active posters for stability of content and discussion, but not a massive influx of users just to have users.
I also don’t want a plethora of users who get banned repeatedly for not being selfaware that their behavior is the problem. The occosional crossed wires ban, no biggie, but thinking there are so many glass people that creating dozens of alts is necessary is not a good look.
…if someone’s been banned on the order of twenty times, it may behoove them to contemplate whether they’re the problem rather than the communities which keep banning them…
I used reddit for two things: news, and niche subcommunities around small hobbies and fandoms.
We’ve got the former here, but I don’t know if we’d ever have enough of a critical mass to sustain the latter. And that sucks for me, because I no longer have a good space for that stuff, but I still don’t ever want to go back to reddit now.
We do, people just have to put in the work. I run two niche communities. Satisfactory and Taylor Swift. Both take time to run and manage, I had to be the sole poster in both for a good long time before other people started jumping in and posting with me. Someone has to be willing to put themselves out there.
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Thank you for your service. 🫡
Thank you for your service. 🫡
Thank you for your service. 🫡
Same here
The “threadiverse” (i.e. lemmy-compatible communities), yeah. There are still many topics that I would find interesting to discuss, but that nobody talks about here; to the extent that there are communities for them, they get very little activity.
The microblogging fediverse (mastodon-compatible), I think, is popular enough by now, I have no real desire to see even more activity there, can hardly keep up with what I’m currently following there and currently tend to unfollow more accounts than I start following.
i looked through mastodon and it seemed like everyone was just talking at each other instead if discussions. its worse than linkedin.
Mastodon is mainly a way to get updates from news sites, blogs, etc.
There are still many topics that I would find interesting to discuss, but that nobody talks about here;
Which ones are those?
For example on Reddit there is an active subreddit for learning my first language (German), where learners post questions about it and I frequently answer them.
There is such a community here too, and I am subscribed to it, but hardly anyone ever posts to it, so I have nothing to respond to.
I wish there were more people in the fediverse, but not necessarily heaps more on Lemmy. I don’t want Reddit numbers on Lemmy. But I wish there were more platforms and more people engaging with them, and no, if the answer is shit like Threads then I don’t want any of it.
I worry sometimes that the reddit exodus brought mostly bellyachers.
The sheer boringness of these repeated questions about the size, growth, health of the fediverse.
Fuck metrics. Jesus, do you mot get it at all?
Agreed! Seriously people this is not reddit. It does not have a bajillion users. Stop asking for it to have a billion users! This question has been asked So. Many. Times. I’m content with the amount of users here, of people want to invite more than invite more, but what is this post? “I have noticed that there are fewer users”. Correct! Next question.
If you think this question is being asked too much, go and sit at AskReddit sometime. Count the many, many times you will see questions like ‘Why are you single?’ or "What would you do if someone gave you a million dollars?’ or similarly worded questions. They are posted by the hour, almost nonstop.
You get a question like mine like once in a few weeks or a month maybe. But you hadn’t seen anything until you check out AskReddit.
You are … making my point.
Indeed
You lot. (Orbital)
The largest Lemmy instance is the most boring, full of unfunny memes and the worst Redditor culture. What you want is high quality postrs, not simply more people!
As Lenin said: better fewer, but better.
this is a very elitist approach camarad
It’s not really elitist, Lemmy was founded as an alternative to Reddit, but Lemmy.world is a repitition of it, not to mention the anti-Marxist pro-zionist moderators. It’s understandable that people leaving Reddit don’t want the same thing as Reddit.
Hum I doubt even the majority of mod are “anti marxist” or “pro zionist”… may be you’re looking at the more active communities, with few mod over them… But for what I read I never had that impression
Here are a few examples of the mods denouncing Socialism and Marxism, and they banned me from political memes for going against the liberal narrative for “misinformation and posturing” despite leaving up the Zionist lie that the Palestinian genocide is a 1000 year conflict. This is also when one of the moderators claimed they weren’t censoring anyone and were incredibly fair on a comment chain calling out their censorship, and refused to elaborate. They would not even tell me how I could edit my comments to comply with their rules.
They defederated from Hexbear “as a last resort-” before ever federating with Hexbear.
In the Lemmygrad defederation thread, there’s unsupported claims of hate speech and calls to violence, which we have to fill in the blanks - the mods are anti-Marxist and anti-revolution, so any Marxist instance is going to fail that test.
The Hexbear defederation thread is somehow worse when they list why instead of leaving it to the imagination. Read some of the top comments, it’s clear that it was anti-Socialist in motive. Real spooky scary zingers listed as evidence in the post like “The West’s role in the world, through organizations such as NATO, the IMF, and the World Bank - among many others - are deeply harmful to the billions of people living both inside and outside of their imperial core.” This statement is 100% obvious to anyone not stanning the US Empire.
Another example listed is “These organizations constitute the modern imperial order, with the United States at its heart - we are not fooled by the term “rules-based international order.” It is in the Left’s interest for these organizations to be demolished. When and how this will occur, and what precisely comes after, is the cause of great debate and discussion on this site, but it is necessary for a better world.” Yet again, they are defederated for being Marxists, and therefore being revolutionary. This is just because they are authentically Marxist, not because posters were mean.
The mods of Lemmy.world are Liberals. Not just any liberals, but “true believers.” Marxism is dangerous to them and so they shut it out, they spelled it out plainly.
It is not elitist to reject unfunny garbage from Reddit brains
So you think if something is bad enough it is ok to discriminate again. Meaning you place the bar of disparaging some contend at around average value , so not at high elite value.
That can hold. It still depend on your value judgement of the content in question. Someone could think that lemmy.ml contend is “unfunny garbage”.
The point of a site like this one, is that not one person is the decider. Not you or me. Users vote what is or is not funny, so that the “avergagely” funny systematically go on top. The more people they are, the more the average will mirror the real world population… I think considering the average population to not be “worthy” is pretty elitist. There are a lot of problem in such a site: Hive mind, trolling, mass vote, bot usage… But discriminating against normal human user (even the worse one) doesn’t seems to me like a solution
Uh… I am the decider of what I identify as tired unfunny memes. Nothing wrong with that!
At this point I’ve blocked so many .world communities that I don’t see that as much. There are some users who I notice bring the reddit antagonism and I tend to block them too. If I come across a post that is full of reddit quips I just block the whole community. I guess I’ve blocked fewer .ml communities overall.
Good on you! I bet that is actually working out great. I should try something similar with another account.
I don’t know. I do understand the preference of quality over quantity, but there is a limit. There’s a difference between reddit anime discussion, where each episode discussion has hundreds of diverse opinions - most being shitty - sure, but while the voting system is flawed, the interesting comments do tend to rise. and between lemmy’s anime discussions, where an episode has…let me check: between 0 to two comments: https://lemmy.world/c/anime or https://ani.social/c/anime. That is really sad. Not to mention that reddit has so much niche subreddits
Having enough users for a community is important, I agree! I think that with the current size of Lemmy userbases, communities are often more like topic flags than self-sustaining niches.
Though to pick on Reddit, every time mods crack down on bots their subreddits decrease in posts and comments around tenfold. A lot of the engagement is fake. Mostly to boost numbers for financial reasons but they can also serve as a means of controlling behaviors and narratives.
Be the change you seek! Most anime communities will let you post episode discussions, and if your instance is active enough you’ll draw viewers sorting by new.
