• Sundial@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Just do a fresh install man. I’m getting anxiety just by looking at it.

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    9 months ago

    I just tried updating my computer to Mint 22 and because I did a lot of tweaking to get VR running well it ended up uninstalling x11. I restored to backup and am now considering just doing a fresh install when 21 loses support instead lol.

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    9 months ago

    At that point I’d just backup my data and do a fresh install - would probably take less time too

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      9 months ago

      I’d automate it but the greybeards tell me it’s a bad idea :(

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        9 months ago

        I do the same as OP with my Fedora workstation, which is wait till I have to summon all the available mirrors just to serve me several gigs of software updates every other week.

        For my servers I have an ansible script to update most of the machines. I fire that up every start of the month after the automatic backups. Seems like I’m a week late again already. In these I use apt dist-upgrade since that seems more robust, but I’m still to shy to run it in a cron job.

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    I’ve updated an Arch install after not being used for 2 years. I don’t think there were any issues.

    I’ve experienced far more issues upgrading to a new major release of an apt based distro though…

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      That apt based distro was Ubuntu, wasn’t it?
      I never successfully upgraded that from one release to the next.

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        9 months ago

        I had success in upgrading a core ubuntu server with only apache and PHP installed … But I don’t think there is a less complicated ununtu install possible.

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    It’s my experience that Ubuntu and Fedora break if you don’t upgrade often (and then suddenly do after a year), while arch doesn’t… Which is interesting, since it’s supposed to be the other way around…

    I think it’s because Fedora and Ubuntu add a lot of new things, while arch just updates it’s packages.

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      Fedora upgrades are very reliable. I’ve never had one fail, 24 upgrades and counting.

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      More please. Getting ready to switch from Windows to Linux, been making sure I can install all the -arr I want and get games running, but in Mint.

      Now I’m hitting the brakes hard. It’s Arch if that means I don’t have this headache. I’ll need to start over learning, but it’ll be worth it.

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        I recently updated an old laptop from Ubuntu 16 to 24 with no issues whatsoever. Do not start with Arch if you don’t have any Linux experience yet.

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        As long as you update frequently (I do it whenever I think about it, usually once every few days to a week) you shouldn’t run into any issues

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        I’ve had two different arch based distros have issues when trying to update after long periods. I also had an Ubuntu server fail completely when doing a major version upgrade and had to restore it from backup. But then again I’ve also had no trouble updating an Ubuntu machine that was a couple years behind.

        I’m on Fedora now for my desktop and it’s been great so far, but I also do updates at least weekly. My advice would be if you expect to go months between updates your best choice is probably Debian.

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        Honestly if you are that worried about updates breaking stuff, you might be better off using an immutable distro. These work using images and/or snapshots so it’s easy to rollback if something goes wrong. It’s also just less likely to go wrong as you aren’t upgrading individual packages as much, but rather the base system as a whole. Both Fedora and Open Suse have atomic/immutable variants with derivatives like Universal Blue providing ready to go setups for specific use cases like gaming and workstation use.

        Alternatively the likes of Debian rarely break because of updates as everything is thoroughly tested before deployment. Gentoo and void are the same deal but in rolling release format so they are at least somewhat up to date while still being quite well tested.

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          Well people were on here saying they do a clean reinstall, backing up their computer and doing a reinstall whenever there’s an update. Certainly don’t want to go through that hassle.

          The idea of an immutable distro sounds pretty good, but I’m willing to do updates pretty often so I’m probably going to end up taking the risk quote unquote of Linux Mint.

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      Eh, I leave fedora for a while and come back and it’s fine. Never had it break and I’ve been using it consistently since like 27.

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    I’ve got a similar problem - but I can’t update because my /var and /root partitions are full. I’ll do a fresh install and use btrfs for the snapshots, I think I fucked my current system somehow and going back would’ve fixed it.

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    That’s why I have an alias that does an unattended update and then powers off. I run this every night.

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    Side note: “I’mma” is a contraction of the whole phrase “I’m going to” or “I’m about to” so it’s followed immediately by the verb indicating what you’ll be doing:

    “I’mma rawdog this sucker without backups.”

    Yes, I added sucker, because it’s going to suck up all your time and data, sucka!