According to an official statement on Ryujinx’s Discord server, developer gdkchan was contacted by Nintendo and they were offered an agreement to stop working on the emulator project, and while the agreement wasn’t confirmed yet, the organization has been entirely removed.
“Agreement” is quite a fucking twist on “threat.”
Someday we’ll learn that GitHub just isn’t the place for this kind of stuff…
What is the alternative?
Closed source “I swear this executable that will let you play all the games you want is legit” hosted on sourceforge or random websites that get hugged to death every day that ends in a y?
Also: it isn’t like that would stop this kind of legal action. MS/Github are barely a factor. It is the devs themselves getting the “hey, stop it or we’ll turn you into indentured servants” letters.
I agree with your second paragraph, but you do know there are plenty of good alternatives to Github right?
GitFlic in Russia. Good luck telling them to get rid of something
It’s where Bypass paywall clean browser extension went after the DMCA bullshut
There is a p2p one called https://radicle.xyz/
GitHub has nothing to do with this. All the information we have is that the dev himself took everything down after an agreement with Nintendo.
A federated github might solve this right?
No, but a gitea/forgejo instance as a hidden service might.
One of yuzu’s forks went that path: http://vub63vv26q6v27xzv2dtcd25xumubshogm67yrpaz2rculqxs7jlfqad.onion/torzu-emu/torzu
NOT publish releases
Well there goes that one for most people
Nope.
C&Ds and legal threats still go to a person who isn’t going to go to jail or have their wages garnished by Mario until the end of their days.
At best you have a single gitlab instance running in a country that is known to not cooperate with those kinds of demands. But… just ask the various torrent sites how well that works after actively pissing off an army of lawyers who don’t mind slipping a hosting company a couple hundred bucks to get the identity and address of the person paying for that.
Hosting a git instance with Njala?
C&Ds and legal threats still go to a person who isn’t going to go to jail or have their wages garnished by Mario until the end of their days.
At best you have a single gitlab instance running in a country that is known to not cooperate with those kinds of demands. But… just ask the various torrent sites how well that works after actively pissing off an army of lawyers who don’t mind slipping a hosting company a couple hundred bucks to get the identity and address of the person paying for that.
Plenty of hosts and providers over the years have claimed to be super privacy oriented and blah blah blah. Once they get a legal request, they roll over. Because they aren’t going to prison for the customer anymore than they are going to prison for you.
kyun.host is mullvad-like insofar as your account is identified by a random account ID and they dont necessarily have an email etc on you (you can provide one so they can contact you if you want but that’s optional). Have not used their services myself but I’m aware of them.
Hosting costs money. Theoretically (some) cryptocurrency can obfuscate that but… there is a reason graph problems got really popular again for a little bit.
But domain names also cost money. They also need to be registered to a person/company.
That is why a lot of torrent sites end up getting their domain stolen.
Also, all of this ignores the actual developers. But that is par for the course when it comes to discussing liability with open source projects.
The problem is that people tend to mistake being private to being above the law. You can argue against what law enforcement decides is a crime, but that matters little to service and providers and it’s a another type of discussion
Yeah. It is why I really like that Proton basically say "We will turn on you in an instant if we get a legal order. But here is what we’ll actually turn over and here is how you can minimize your vulnerability to that.
Damn, I just got a mac and it has replaced my switch thanks to this brilliant software
For anyone looking, someone Archive.org’d the final Win x64 compiled version:
seems like there have been multiple contributors. so many clones of the repo…
deleted by creator
gdkchan? Who’s that person? My username is gdkchan2 but it’s purely a coincidence
Main hassle is to set up the disposable bank accounts in tax havens
Nintendo’s real intent is doubtless to try and ensure that nobody ever makes a functional emulator for the upcoming Switch 2.
Good fucking luck, the hardware will likely be a 2022 tablet if the switch is anything to go off of. Considering as well the console will likely have similar architecture, and switch emulators already exist, I’d give it about 3 months.
If we keep using the current version and it never gets any updates, will it keep running the whole Switch game library.
Mostly, probably.
I would expect the legal teams to slow down once the switch becomes obsolete. (Like the SNES, GCN, etc.) At that point some other group will take up the mantle and patch whatever is broken.
… That’s my guess.
Need to do something! As for YouTube and ad-blockers
they probably would have been fine if they weren’t shown as being used to play the leaked echos of wisdom…
Don’t think so, one day it would be shutdowned by Nintendo
Sigh…
Just had to find about it here https://youtu.be/XrRlL7_coh0
Goddammit!
Why won’t Nintendo just FUCK. OFF. with this crusade of theirs??!!
(And before anyone mentions it, yes, I’m aware as to why they don’t. The question was rhetorical.)
…Okay.
Someone will take his place and continue the work. Someone who is more robust and has a will to not cater to such dumb demands.
as of now, nobody took the place of yuzu devs, for example
suyu (the most famous yuzu fork) got just 50 commits in the last 6 months and are almost all of them are tiny changes to the readme where they only change the discord link or just memes
Yah sure keep thinking that. Hasn’t happened for the other emulator taken down.
Man you’re so defeatist. Do you dare call yourself a pirate still with that kind of mentality? If so, please excuse yourself by not representing of being a part of the pirate community.
Because we don’t have time or patience for that shit. Things shut down all the time, but things also come back. People within rank will pick up what’s been left behind. The only people dumb enough to say the shit you’ve said, are simply just leechers. Leechers who take and take but give nothing back. You’re nothing.
“pirate community” lmfao
A retard. LMAO
The agreement: You agree to take it down and we agree not to take your house and 30% of your salary until you die.
I’m not so sure. It’s possible Nintendo opted for a carrot rather than a stick in this case.
This doesn’t seem to have been started with a public C&D letter like usual. Yuzu (the previous Switch emulator that was taken down) incorporated some proprietary Nintendo information, which is why Nintendo had a legal lever against them. They don’t have one in this case, yet it still came down. Plus, everything seems to be have been going on very quiet behind the scenes.
If you were an emulator writer and Nintendo came and offered you life changing money in exchange for ending the project, would you take it? I would have a very hard time turning that down. Nintendo also doesn’t want a flood of yokels trying to start the project up again hoping to receive the same offer; most would fail, but one or two might take off. Better to let the threat be implied.
This is just speculation, of course, but something about the way this has unfolded feels a little different.
