President Biden on Friday delivered a ferocious condemnation of Donald J. Trump, his likely 2024 opponent, warning in searing language that the former president had directed an insurrection and would aim to undo the nation’s bedrock democracy if he returned to power.
On the eve of the third anniversary of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by Mr. Trump’s supporters, Mr. Biden framed the coming election as a choice between a candidate devoted to upholding America’s centuries-old ideals and a chaos agent willing to discard them for his personal benefit.
“There’s no confusion about who Trump is or what he intends to do,” Mr. Biden warned in a speech at a community college not far from Valley Forge in Pennsylvania, where George Washington commanded troops during the Revolutionary War. Exhorting supporters to prepare to vote this fall, he said: “We all know who Donald Trump is. The question is: Who are we?”
In an intensely personal address that at one point nearly led Mr. Biden to curse Mr. Trump by name, the president compared his rival to foreign autocrats who rule by fiat and lies. He said Mr. Trump had failed the basic test of American leaders, to trust the people to choose their elected officials and abide by their decisions.
“We must be clear,” Mr. Biden said. “Democracy is on the ballot. Your freedom is on the ballot.”
Just tell him to go home because he’s drunk on stage lol
as a german I’m not that up to date but is it still possible that this orange, wig wearing cunt can run for presidency?
Yes, and he’s just as popular with his voters as he was in 2020, if not more, because they’re sympathetic to his claims that all the charges against him were politically motivated.
The 14th amendment hasn’t been tested to anywhere near this extent ever, so the Supreme Court is likely to rule in his favor because there haven’t been any convictions yet and we have literally nothing to use as precident (and because he personally appointed 1/3 of the justices)
“Democracy is on the ballot. Your freedom is on the ballot”
Indeed, vote out these two geezers from the government
Voting third party is not really a viable strategy until we change the FPTP voting system. You aren’t going to fix this by attempting to vote for a third party in the upcoming presidential election. If you want change in the system, you have to start from the bottom and work in local elections and then state elections to get them to change the voting system. Then we can have viable multiple parties. But this “we can vote out the POTUS in the next election!” is theoretically possible, but it’s also painfully naive in reality.
is theoretically possible, but it’s also painfully naive in reality.
In reality is just as easy as putting a vote on a third party
Sure, just get 175 million other people to think exactly like you and you’ll have your new political system.
175 million people already know that voting for a fascist or a genocide supporter is not ok, propaganda makes them believe they either have to chose one of the two
I share your objective, but how. The third party approach has been a complete and total failure, and the spoiler effect makes it dangerous. Pushing the Democrats left has achieved at least some minor wins. Third parties have had none.
“But if people just voted third party…”. Great, you found a political strategy that can win, provided that the majority of voters do as their told. If we had that kind of unified engagement, any strategy would win.
Voting for a third party will push red and blue to change more than asking them kindly. As soon as a third party start to get attention red and blue even if still in power will have to go in damage mode not to lose all their voters.
Third parties are not a new concept. Just like the two parties, they have a track record we can look at. This has never happened. Bernie Sanders has pushed the Democrats further left than anyone since FDR, and he only started to make substantive gains when he ran as a Democrat.
If you want to claim that third parties can achieve anything at all, it’s on you to explain what changed. The track record is abysmal.
Go ahead and vote for a fascist or a genocide supporter then. I’m sure this will turn out good and the two party will change its policies because someone on social media is reacting with angry emojis
Voting for a third party will push red and blue to change more than asking them kindly.
Actually, it’s probably the exact opposite. They want fewer people actually involved in the election, because then they need to convince fewer people to vote for them in order to win. If you effectively remove yourself from the voting pool, by voting for someone who can’t win, you are basically making it so they don’t have to court you, not that they will.
Even if you managed to get a third party elected, it would just revert back to two parties very rapidly. This is the nature of a FPTP voting system. This is not something you can do top down by flipping a switch. It’s gotta go the other way. Work on your local elections.
Go ahead and vote for a fascist or a genocide supporter and remember for the rest of your days that you voted for it
Even if I were to agree with this and I could oversimplify it to this one thing, under the current situation my vote is only meaningful if I choose one of the two. And there is a lot more at stake than a policy difference over support for Israel.
So how the rest of my days play out will not be affected at all by my choice to support Biden in the upcoming presidential election.
You, however, seem blinded by anger. Your third party vote on principle will unlikely free you from this anger. Maybe it’s time to look elsewhere.
So how the rest of my days play out will not be affected at all by my choice to support Biden in the upcoming presidential election.
Sounds like you are lucky enough not to live in africa, western europe, south america or the middle east otherwise you would taste the consequences of voting for a fascist or a genocide supporter first hand under live bullets.
Sound like you are also not really smart because you fail to realize that the moment your country stop being governed by corrupted politicians in bed with billionares and warlords, public money and the economy would spin in favor of people and not evil corporations exploiting workers and the environment for more profits.
because you fail to realize
The fact that you think you were able to infer the rest of the paragraph from what I’ve said proves that, despite how dumb I am, I’m still light years more intelligent than you.
We need the media to start taking this shit seriously and stop “both sidsing” shit like the insurrection or the fourteenth amendment.
“We all know who Donald Trump is. The question is: Who are we?”
I posted the following elsewhere, just before I read that he said this, as I was thinking about a quote I heard earlier from DL Hughley regarding Trump’s election:
“America saw exactly who it was last night… Exactly who we are,” Hughley said. “I think Obama was what we aspire to be, Trump and his supporters are who we are.”
The Democrats’ problem is that they don’t address who we are. They offer only aspirations. Who are we (beyond the racists and fascists Trump and his supporters represent)? Broke. Sick. Overworked. Exploited. Isolated. Scared. He wants us to vote based on hope that we can push back fascism. Hope that we can win our rights back. He wants us to vote based on some dream of democracy I can’t say I’ve ever witnessed in my lifetime. Give me someone to vote for who’s going to meet us where we are.
“You can’t be pro-insurrectionist and pro-American.”
The United States were literally founded on an insurrection.
Not sure what point you’re trying to make. Back then they couldn’t be pro-insurrectionist and pro-Britain; you can’t be pro-something you want to revolt against.
The point is that being American is being anti-government.
Weird how it’s been going on for a quarter of a millennium then.
Yes, and all without any major incidents like assassinations or revolution attempts either /s
Ever hear of “taxation without representation”?
Boy, would that sound less hollow if the dems were not actively trying to cancel primaries.
Cancel primaries? Sounds like a huge load of BS. I don’t suppose you have a source?
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