when the country that has a hard-on for murdering Armenians and Kurds comes out with “whoa, hey, that’s a little much” …
Didn’t both of these countries support ISIS?
Misinformation
Ban
In all fairness, it was a question. That much leniency needs to exist. If replies end up being educating, it replicates the mind dialogue many other lurkers have.
Erdogan is far from the worst possible person. He is better than the heads of Western countries, Israel, and any supporters of Israel or Nazi Ukraine.
@shreddy_scientist
If he is saying so, then maybe Israel is not so bad lolnyeah, no … Over 10,500 Killed in One Month
Nearly half of these are childrens. It is true that Hamas is a terrorist organization that keeps the population hostage, but terrorism cannot be combated by indiscriminately bombing the population, schools and hospitals, causing thousands of deaths as “collateral damage” to catch perhaps 2-3 terrorists. This is what makes the Israeli government terrorists just like Hamas.
Stop calling Hamas terrorists. They won a fair election, and they are the sole reason Palestine has not been fully erased until now. If not for them, USA would have assisted and got Zionist colonisation project done long ago.
Read the full story to see the kind of people Hamas is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas
Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information for geopolitics that has the possibility to say anything against Anglo (or Anglo-Saxon) countries or their key vassal states like Israel or Japan (also Hongkong until 2019 CIA funded riots, and Ukraine from 2022-2024).
My long term friend is a Palestinian, and Hamas being the only line of their defense is critical to their existence, until Palestine is liberated, rolled back to the UN partition guidelines, and Palestinians allowed to form a strong independent military that can thrash US-funded IDF terrorists.
If you think Hamas is detached from Palestine, simply put, either you are idiot or dishonest towards the cause of liberation of Palestine. You are a victim of reactionary Western propaganda.
Hamas is a terrorist organization that keeps the population hostage
Israel has kept the population hostage since even before Hamas won a free and fair election in 2006, and in retaliation, for the last 16 years Israel made their imprisonment even more draconian.
So we’re blindly accepting hamas death tolls now? People never learn
So we’re blindly accepting hamas death tolls now? People never learn
People never seem to learn their reputation in this regard before making comments such as yours.
One snippet out of a lengthy article.
Many experts consider figures provided by the ministry reliable, given its access, sources and accuracy in past statements.
“Everyone uses the figures from the Gaza Health Ministry because those are generally proven to be reliable,” said Omar Shakir, Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch. “In the times in which we have done our own verification of numbers for particular strikes, I’m not aware of any time which there’s been some major discrepancy.”
Shakir said Human Rights Watch would not use figures provided by parties with “a propensity to misrepresent information.”
Why news outlets and the U.N. rely on Gaza’s Health Ministry for death tolls
And another:
Throughout four wars and numerous bloody skirmishes between Israel and Hamas, U.N. agencies have cited the Health Ministry’s death tolls in regular reports. The International Committee of the Red Cross and Palestinian Red Crescent also use the numbers.
In the aftermath of war, the U.N. humanitarian office has published final death tolls based on its own research into medical records.
In all cases the U.N.’s counts have largely been consistent with the Gaza Health Ministry’s, with small discrepancies.
— 2008 war: The ministry reported 1,440 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 1,385.
— 2014 war: The ministry reported 2,310 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 2,251.
— 2021 war: The ministry reported 260 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 256.
What is Gaza’s Ministry of Health and how does it calculate the war’s death toll?
@shreddy_scientist @cerement @Khalic
Why I never see pro palestine people asking for Hamas to be removed from palestine?
They are terrorists, any step toward a Palestine state must first involve removing terrorists.
But I never see that. Very weird.
Hamas charter literally is about Israel destruction, their goal is clearly stated.
And is unacceptable.
Or at least, it should be, unless someone is antisemitic, then Hamas destroying Israel is good for them.You got something to say? Come on and say it. Or were you just wanting to make some sideways passive-aggressive implications about the character of people you don’t know solely because we won’t let what Israel is doing be swept under the rug?
@shreddy_scientist @cerement @Khalic
My question is very clear.
Hamas charter is also very very clear.
Nothing passive about that.Ok buddy, run along now. Have a nice day!
(Also you don’t need to tag someone when you are replying to them.)
Israel has vowed and is erasing Palestine for the past century. Palestine is left as literal dots inside of Israel. What do you expect, shit on their only line of defense, Hamas, for looking good on social media? People outside of West are not clowns seeking internet validation.
Your article doesn’t speak about verification. It just says UNICEF believes them.
Hamas is a result of hoe Israël has been handling the issue for decades now.
I’m not saying Hamas is fine, great, innocent or anything. Far from it. But the blame is on both sides.
he’s not really one to talk… but he’s also, unfortunately, not wrong.
You know you’re doing bad stuff when a iron fisted despot calls you out on your atrocities.
