• jarfil@beehaw.org
          7·
          10 months ago

          So like mini-USB?

          Still, is it the plug, or the socket that breaks? I’ve been holding for a long time that using sockets with tiny plastic tongues to hold the conductors, is a bat shit crazy move in consumer electronics, where a cable is prone to getting a lateral tug that rips the whole thing apart.

          This includes some old Samsung connectors, all of modern Nokias, mini-USB, micro-USB, and even USB-C.

          Old Nokias and Ericssons had the right idea: pogo/flex pins on the connector, and just a bunch of plates on the socket, so the cable would break but the socket was rock solid.

          • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            15·
            10 months ago

            Mini USB has to be one of the most robust connectors I’ve used tbh. All my original cables from over a decade ago still work flawlessly, as well as the ports on the devices housing them.

            As for Micro USB… not great. I hope USB-C is more durable, so far I haven’t had any issues with ports going bad that wasn’t down to some ultra cheap adapter or cable

            • jarfil@beehaw.org
              6·
              10 months ago

              I’ve had plenty of Mini-USB failures, all of them in the socket. There’s a reason why when Micro-USB was designed, they bumped the required mating cycle rating to twice that of Mini-USB.

              The biggest problem with Micro-USB, is that it got adopted as the standard charging port for smartphones, which proved even the doubled mating cycle rating way insufficient.

              For reference:

              • USB-A, USB-B: 1500 cycles (but they tend to stay put)
              • Mini-USB: 5000 cycles (good for sporadic data transfers, and once or twice a day charging)
              • Micro-USB, USB-C: 10000 cycles (better for daily charging, not so much for many times a day)
              • Magnetic adapter, Wireless: until it burns out, but not so standard.

              If you had problems with Micro-USB, expect about the same to happen with USB-C. Plugging it once a day to charge, should last 30 years; plugging it 10 times a day to “top it up”, will break it after 3 years on average.

              Personally, I’ve put some magnetic adapters in all Micro-USB stuff like 5-6 years ago, and so far only one of the adapters has broken, all sockets are like new.

              • blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk
                1·
                10 months ago

                The problem with micro USB is that hardly anyone ever had issues with the ports or cables on mini USB, then micro USB comes along with it’s massive 10000 cycles, but the cables break so easily so loads of people have problems with them. All because some people wanted smaller ports.

            • Admetus@sopuli.xyz
              1·
              10 months ago

              I’m sure the cables work but I can assure you the terminals on devices eventually do fail. I had to replace one on my old android phone.

            • beefcat@beehaw.org
              1·
              10 months ago

              mini-usb cables are robust, but the sockets they plug into were pretty fragile, i’ve had multiple break.

          • cecilkorik@lemmy.caEnglish
            4·
            10 months ago

            Magsafe is a really great idea, it’s just a shame Apple came up with it first and I can’t wait for it to be the universal standard for all types of external connectors forevermore. It’s as close as we can get to wireless without being wireless.

            • Phroon@beehaw.orgEnglish
              7·
              10 months ago

              Interestingly, Apple has donated the phone version of MagSafe to the Qi open wireless charging standard. Soon we’ll see a magnetically aligning wireless charging Qi2 devices from other manufacturers.

          • beefcat@beehaw.org
            2·
            10 months ago

            the socket. sadly this is a design flaw with every usb connector, even type-c.

            amusingly, Apple’s lightning is the only connector i’ve seen that seems truly designed for the cable to break before the socket

  • aperson@beehaw.orgEnglish
    12·
    10 months ago

    Just wait until you see the connectors that are dual lightning and micro USB.

  • clb92@feddit.dk
    9·
    10 months ago

    I’ve found that they don’t always fit properly in all female Micro USB connectors, but they are quite interesting.

    • sarmale@lemmy.zipOP
      1·
      10 months ago

      Theres a bendy thing in middle with contacts on both sides so they can fit in any normal microusb port

      • IcyPenguin@beehaw.org
        1·
        10 months ago

        That sounds horrible. These connectors probably break after the fifth time of plugging them in. Apple’s idea with Lightning wasn’t that bad I guess. But then they were to stubborn and it took them years to put USB C in their phones.