On the instance I’m using, my comments and posts have disappeared. It is ok?
I had a few helpful comments here that I saved, but it’s all gone.
Having got used to the stability in Mastodon I was surprised by such things in Lemmy as:
Unable to log into your account through the app after an update on the server.
Unable to log into your account through the app if your instance version is out of date.
Just because you’ve created a post or written a comment doesn’t mean other Lemmy users will see it.
I have to constantly check to see if my messages are visible on other instances.
You also need to have many sub-accounts on different instances in case some of the primary instances are unavailable.
Kbin has been having serious problems lately
a little, but I’m dealing with it. 18 or so years ago, when reddit was new, it had a lot of bugs, was unstable, and would often go down for upgrades and maintenance.
although lemmy has been around for a few years, it hasn’t really been run or even tested as a serious platform until last summer when tens of thousands of new users flocked to it suddenly from reddit and both a bunch of new instances popped up and a bunch of new and rapid software releases brought a bunch of new features to handle the sudden growth. some growing pains are to be expected and, frankly, it’s all gone far more smoothly than I expected it would.
18 Years ago I was more patient with things like that. Today my patience is only for shit that matters.
aaaaand why don’t you think that taking the time to work out the bugs on this platform doesn’t matter?
you do realize that this - all of this here that we’re participating in - is part of a big experiment run purely on volunteer work by a community-driven effort, and is entirely funded thereby. there’s no corporate effort at play here and no megabucks to bankroll it. that’s kinda the point of it all. so, if you’re dissatisfied with that state of things or by what you perceive as a lack of progress, I suggest you roll up your sleeves and dig in, contribute your time and effort to the development, or find some other way to contribute to the project and/or community in furtherance of its goals.
whining here about those things will get you precisely nowhere— especially when you either imply or outright declare that any of this doesn’t matter.
My family matters. My work matters. My pleasure activities matter. Whether or not some rando on the Internet is able to read my comment really doesn’t matter.
nobody here doubts that you’re selfish and self-centered with no care for anyone but yourself.
Whether or not some rando on the Internet is able to read my comment really doesn’t matter.
then why are you here trying so hard?
You’re calling me selfish for caring about my family, work, and real life things instead of the Internet? That’s just sad man.
What’s sad is that you have to twist my words to excuse your behavior.
And if you really didn’t care, you wouldn’t have been spending the last couple of days trying so hard to convince me.
I’ve said very little, you seem like the one trying to convince yourself. 🤷♂️
At first, absolutely. Very frustrating, kept feeling the pull back you-know-where. But then after a while, it became kind of a zen thing, if i’m using that word properly? It gives me time to breath a bit, rather than just doom scrolling at an increasing rate.
Maybe kind of part of the Lemmy Ritual? Maybe I’m strange.
Just because you’ve created a post or written a comment doesn’t mean other Lemmy users will see it.
I’m more annoyed that my instance presently reports a higher number of comments than what gets displayed (since moving to 19.0, I think). Sometimes, I can workaround that by changing the view, but often not. I wanna read what others have to contribute more than I care if they see what I say, but I was a lurker on the old site and I’ve never been on the mainstream socials.
The only major annoyance I’ve encountered so far was the federation issues with 0.19. My instance recently upgraded and broke federation with instances like .world, so I’ve been shouting into a void with my comments on some instances.
We had that at Lemmy.today too, but the instance admin fixed it just now. Go read their announcements communitity what they did.
Thanks! I’ll link it to my instance’s support community.
As a developer, I am absolutely amazed that any of this (all the software you are using, all of it) even works a little. So: no.
I independently came up with “federation” (as in thought of it but not exactly this, and was building on others work) as the basis for a masters thesis in the early 2000s but left the program to get a job so never saw it through.
So, no, I am not annoyed. I am amazed, grateful, impressed, and humbled but I am not annoyed.
I’m self-hosting and it has been ridiculously smooth coupled with Voyager as my mobile app. Now I understand that a single user instance is a lot easier to handle than a multi-user one so I naturally don’t have any experience or opinion on how Lemmy instances scale with users in terms of stability.
Right now, another bug has manifested itself. Your message is shown in the “Replies” tab in Jerboa’s inbox, but it is not visible in the comments of the message thread.
For a few months, I couldn’t log into this instance through apps.
Yesterday, the lemmy.today instance stopped sending posts and messages to the Lemmy network. I only found out about it when I logged in through another instance in asklemmy and saw that my post wasn’t in the community.This happened to me when my language settings weren’t set. You can’t even access them in jerboa, log in with a browser and check if English is selected besides default. And whatever else you wish to see.
You also need to make sure undetermined is checked
Nope, even a buggy, glitchy Lemmy is a head and shoulders better experience than any shitty corpo social media.
I think many of us feel that way. Just getting away from that shit is worth a lot of smaller glitches here on Lemmy. :)
Seems super stable to me, might be the client smoothing it out.
Yea I haven’t noticed much
Boost for Lemmy & web app
Could also be issues with their particular instance - particularly the “instance out of date” one.
I’m annoyed by my instance basically shutting down after I was told that it really didn’t matter where I registered my Lemmy account back when I moved from Reddit.
Maybe you should ask your admin in !meta@lemy.nl or !chat@lemy.nl what’s up with the specific errors on your instance. Maybe they had some problems operating it. You can always switch instances. My posts never disappear without reason. (They can also be removed if they violate the terms of an instance or community.)
The other issues also annoy me. Federation is somewhat broken and posts and comments often don’t propagate to other instances since Lemmy version 0.19.0 (and 0.19.1 which should have fixed that.) It’s the fault of the Lemmy developers to release a broken update. We’ll see if they continue doing that or if they have learned something. I think they want to hire a third full-time developer. Maybe that helps.
The need to re-login and unable to login with an older client happened once. Things like that can happen if bigger changes are made. I don’t think this will become a regular thing. And it’s not that annoying in my eyes. Most importantly clients have to handle that correctly and give a meaningful error message and guide you to the login page. But some proper error handling is also missing here.
So: Yes. The things you mentioned also annoy me. Lemmy has still lots of room for improvement. And it’s nowhere near other federated platforms. I hope the Lemmy devs aren’t repeating the most annoying mistakes and fix federation soon so this can be an issue of the past…
Not at all, it was annoying for a few weeks when reddit imploded but since then I haven’t had any problems.
The app? There are many, many client for Lemmy. Thunder is able to handle multiple versions and multiple accounts on multiple instances. This is a client API implementation limitation of whatever client you are using. Not Lemmy itself.
As for the federation issues, they are being worked out. Each major version has improved the internal server logic, improving the reliability of the inter-instance communication. But the changes have also come with kinks, that have had to be getting worked out with each sub-version update, before the team bites off on the next big improvement.
v19 introduced changes to how the federation queue works, and these are currently causing higher than before resource usage. Because of this, some instances seem to be falling behind on syncing federated content.
When do you think Lemmy will reach the same stability as Mastodon?
With the current tiny team, at least a year out. Probably more.
With improved functionality, adoption will likely improve, with improved adoption interest in developing it should improve… Once that feedback loop gets going things can go very fast.
The reddit migration has seeded Lemmy with a bunch of competent client apps, and developers to work on them (I’ve personally contributed to Thunder). But it didn’t do much for the development of Lemmy itself.
Mastodon has achieved critical mass among developer interest, I think, and is teetering on the edge of becoming a real mainstream option. When I first tried it many years ago, it was near unusable for the average normal person. And while it is now much better, it’s been years. Lemmy is a lot closer to the start of that same road.
I’ve not experienced any of the issues you mention. Why do you have to check other instances to see if your comments are visible. Trust that they will be eventually.
No. My experience has ben once things become stable and slick is when the enshittining begins.
