What is your favorite mythological figure (of ancient religions only)?

  • HamsterRage@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Anubis and Thoth weighing the heart of the dead to see if it is as light as a feather before letting them into the afterlife.

    I love the idea that there’s no “do this, do that”, or a concrete set of rules or commandments. But the idea that if you can look back on your life, and if your heart isn’t weighed down with the burden of all of the things that you did that know we’re just wrong…then you can go on to the afterlife.

    It’s just no much more of a reasonable, adult approach to morality.

    • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      So, the guy who kicked a kitten at age three and still broods about it goes to hell, and the war criminal who feels justified for bombing civilians gets off scot free?

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        Actually…yes. At least for the “war criminal”. I think the point is that you can’t hide your inner feelings from the feather. So if you genuinely, in the deepest depths of your heart, have no qualms about bombing civilians then you’re fine.

        I think this points out the fundamental relativistic nature of morality and how the feather copes with it. Everyone has some sort of moral compass, and the feather measures how true you were to it. And really, what more can you ask of anyone? Decide, for yourself, what is right and what is wrong and stick to it.

        Putting aside the fact that a toddler probably lacks the intellectual or emotional development to have a truely personal morality, I cannot imagine that someone who “broods” all their life over kicking a kitten when they were three is anything other than the nicest most moral person you’ll ever meet. I don’t think that have any trouble with Anubis and Thoth.

      • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 months ago

        Ah now that’s a trick question, because the Abrahamic god is in fact an amalgam of both, which is why he’s so derangedly bipolar in the Old Testament!

        • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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          Yeah. I think historically it is interesting, because the Hebrew Elohim of Genesis is in the plural, and there is evidence that followers of El believed him to be one deity in a pantheon. In that sense, Elohim and the associated creation myths have their roots in a polytheistic religion.

          Yhwh was more likely a figure from a belief system of a different region which ended up co-opting the earlier stories. I know your comment was tongue-in-cheek, but I think it is actually plausible that things like the Catholic Holy Trinity have roots in El and Yhwh technically being different figures.

          • ItDoBeHowItDoBe@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Interestingly enough, when Eelohim is used to refer to the Hebrew God in the bible, it takes singular verbs, while it take plural when referring to the gods of the nations surrounding them.

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              2 months ago

              I wonder how much of that has to do with semantic drift on Elohim, i.e. by the time the oldest extant manuscripts were written, the figure was already considered singular despite retaining the noun plural morphology. The implication there would be that earlier (now lost) manuscripts may have had plural verb agreement for Elohim, or maybe simpler / more plausible, there was a time in the oral tradition where Elohim was still considered a plural figure and would have naturally gotten plural verbs.

              I think the fact that the plural morphology exists on the noun at all suggests at least that the figure started as a collective.

              Edit: probably also worth a mention that portions of Genesis (e.g. Garden of Eden) mirror portions of the Epic of Gilgamesh, a story which is overtly polytheistic.

      • AndrewZabar@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        There are numerous names and in fact, there are sources which I cannot recall, that said his full name was like 24 letters long or something like that. Not surprising since he’s a hodgepodge of lots of prior mythos and was probably written of and modified over hundreds of years.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      It might seem like a subjective question, but the answer is objectively Prometheus and his replacements in other cultures.

      Someone that went against God(s) to give humans knowledge that at the time was considered magical

      Like, we talk about how much tech changes stuff today, but fucking fire?

      Imagine being alive when your group of humans mastered fire. That shit would have been fucking mind breaking.

      • slazer2au@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        He is the one that have humans fire and was chained to the rock for all time while having his guts eaten by a bird each day which healed each night?

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Yep.

          The OG Light Bringer sentenced to eternal damnation for providing knowledge to humans.

          And yes, I’m still salty Christians made him the bad guy.

  • Vanth@reddthat.com
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    2 months ago

    I like the various mythologies for psychopomps; Anubis, Charon, grim reapers, Azrael, Vanth, valkyries, etc.

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      2 months ago

      psychopomps?

      Psychopomps (from the Greek word ψυχοπομπός, psychopompós, literally meaning the ‘guide of souls’)[1] are creatures, spirits, angels, demons, or deities in many religions whose responsibility is to escort newly deceased souls from Earth to the afterlife.[2]

      cool, thanks.

      If you like psychopomps, you should play Spiritfarer, you get to be a psychopomp. and it’s comforting.

  • Boozilla@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The Demiurge. Not that I like the Demiurge itself. But explaining the human condition as being a product of bad design appeals to me. I don’t believe the myth and I’m not religious. But as far as myths go, that one is my fave.