this is how I feel about the liberals to be honest, but that’s the beauty of lemmy: we can have our instance to talk about communism, and you can have your instance to talk about how much you hate communism.
i hate tankies with a burning passion
*tankies
I dont have a problem with commies bc they are people that want good but we just disagree on how it should be achieved. Tankies on the other hand are basically nazis but they support stalin and not hitler.
Socies are cool but tankies are absolutely not
I hear more complaining about commies/tankies than I actually see posts from them
You ought to consider yourself lucky.
You might want to move instances. .ml is federated with hexbear, which has a lot of really annoying authoritarian communists. (Tankies) .world and many others are defederated with them, so you could block the subs and users, or move to a different instance.
At least it’s not Nazis, although tankies are every bit as bad.
Aye I wish belived that capitalism created a fair society. Seems more comfy.
In my experience, the point of leftism is to bring more power to the average citizen. What about that do you disagree with?
Communism =/= leftism. It’s an extreme form of socialism.
My biggest problem isn’t even the communist ideals. Have your ideas, that’s fine. I don’t care.
My problem is the amount of people coming into post comments attacking American Imperialism® on posts that aren’t even related to communist ideals or, sometimes, that don’t even mention America. It gets tiring reading how much America sucks when that’s not even the point of the post.
Not op, but I’d guess it’s probably the part where you start murdering people and removing their basic freedoms.
The meme doesn’t say “leftism”.
Communists? Nah, not a problem. I mean I’m a Star Trek fan, and while it’s not played up that much the Federation is a post-scarcity socialist-adjacent society. I’m all for everyone having their basic needs met without condition or obligation, and money being obsolete.
Tankies though can fuck right off. North Korea is not a bastion of democracy. China is not more free than the US. This is not a comparison even worth entertaining.
I don’t think anyone has a problem with post scarcity utopian idealism, we just aren’t at the post scarcity part yet
Star Trek is fully automatic gay space communism.
It’s not socialist adjacent.
Counterpoint: Riker.
Look, I know the Federation doesn’t have money, but they probably brought it back just to charge Riker for all the extra cleanup required every time he visited the holodeck.
The problem isn’t communism per se, but communism forcibly imposed.
More precisely, the problem is that communism is the superior system to the degree that it’s egalitarian - that it eliminates the ruling class and instead treats all citizens equally - and the forcible imposition of communism immediately destroys that, since it presumes that those carrying out the forcible imposition rightfully possess the authority to do so, and thereby simply establishes them as a new ruling class.
Communism should be the goal, but in order to actually fulfill its potential, it MUST be voluntarily adopted by the people rather than forcibly imposed.
This but also humans are inherently greedy, easy to corrupt, and prone to power hungry authoritarianism, so no system we create to govern ourselves has ever, or will ever, be fair or just.
Lemmy is great because of the commies
