I asked someone this question before and they said it was a really stupid question and I’m not sure why so thought I would ask it here…
What’s going to happen when AI becomes really advanced? Is there a plan for what all of the displaced people are going to do? Like for example administrative assistance, receptionist, cashiers, office workers, White collar people. Is there going to be some sort of retraining program of some sort to get people cross-trained into other careers like nursing or other careers that have not yet been automated? Or are people just going to lose their homes, be evicted and is there going to be like some sort of mass eviction and homelessness downstream effect because people can’t find any work?
AGI isn’t possible? You will need some proof for that.
Computers are already faster and more reliable than humans in lots of things, whe shouldn’t they be better tomorrow?
He’s saying there’s no proof it is. Like there’s no proof of God. Doesn’t mean it isn’t magically possible but in our reality there isn’t a defined way. If there was we’d be there.
He says there is no evidence of possible AGI which is bs IMO.
What’s the evidence?
That the human brain exists is enough evidence that intelligence is possible. An AGI similar to the human brain is then possible at a minimum
Can’t say much more than that for sure, but you have a starting point.
Because intelligence exists, AGI similar to the human brain is possible? Your conclusion does not follow the premise.
Yes, absolutely. Because at a minimum we can recreate the human brain, as we know the human brain can exist.
You are talking funny friend… we can NOT recreate the human brain. Maybe someday, but so far it has not been demonstrated to be possible.
You say that we can recreate the human brain because we know the human brain can exist.
The sun can exist, can we recreate the sun?
In theory? Yes. That’s the point. All I’m saying is that it’s not literally impossible, why is it so hard to understand?
So you think it’s an inevitability? Given enough time we will develop one?
The question wasn’t whether it’s inevitable, but whether it’s possible
And the answer to whether it’s possible is a clear: Yes, because we already have general intelligence
But it’s very much not an inevitability, no. Civilization could always collapse before we get to that point, after all
Just because intelligence exists does not mean it is possible to artificially create general intelligence… we would need some evidence that AGI is possible other than ‘makes sense to me’
Well, here we need to specify what “artificial” in this equation means. Because to me it just means “created by humans” (so, not natural processes). It doesn’t say anything about it not being able to be near-identical to natural brains
My very limited understanding, is simply that LLMs are not an early iteration of AGI.
In the same way automobiles are not an early iteration of aeroplanes. They use some of the same tech but before there were aeroplanes no one really knew what was possible.
It’s true that computers get faster and more amazing, but that’s not an indication that AGI is possible.
True, but that doesn’t mean AGI isn’t possible. We already have wetware thats very intelligent for example.
I don’t think it’s possible to demonstrate whether or not AGI will be possible until it exists in some form.
Why?
Computers are getting smarter and smarter so why not?
Because there is no evidence that it is possible.
No one said there was evidence for it, you’re just goalpost-moving.
My comment is a reference to the well known axiom that you can not provide evidence for a negative. It’s not possible to provide evidence that AGI is not possible, we must content ourselves with the lack of evidence that it is possible.