more active in terms of not feeling drowned out, but also just as much if not more fickle about things that are posted, so i basically stopped doing that and do the occasional comment if im feeling fanciful
I am reading a lot more toxic discussion and really angry people here on lemmy than i did on reddit, which makes me sometimes think i might be at the wrong place. I blocked some of the communities that pull american politics in my feed but still. On reddit, i was good reading just my niche interest subs, but there is very little traffic here for niche stuff, so i end up reading the crazy talk too.
Same. And I like some disagreement as that brings discussion. Lemmy can be pretty toxic if you don’t echo back the expected.
There are still echo chambers just like Reddit.
Echo chamber is just another way of saying people tend to group up with like minded people. I certainly don’t want to interact with people on the internet that I avoid in real life.
Polite counterpoint: ‘echo chambers’ are more than that, I feel. It’s not that they are a group of like-minded people, so much as they police groupthink and don’t allow even moderately dissenting opinions.
See: r/conservative, and them permabanning anyone who so much as hints at a different mindset.
It really depends. If I run a queer friendly space, then part of being queer friendly is not putting people in the position to have to defend their existence every time they log in. Which means that anything I can see that even smells off gets removed immediately. If you come and whine about it instead of giving me a clear signal you understood, you’re getting banned.
Is it an echo chamber?
I don’t know. Probably.Would I run it any other way?
Fuck no.That was my experience on blahaj. I’d never been banned from a community, let alone one I’ve been an ally to before. Such a pure echo chamber that even discussing why the outside world holds the views they have, even without expressing agreement, gets you labeled a transphobe.
Honestly, it soured me on lemmy as a whole since that was the content I had been enjoying the most.
It funny you bring up r/conservatism. It use to be a fairly big sub and far more moderate until Trump got into power. But if you had anything bad to say about Trump, banned.
Now it is just an echo chamber with few members. Go there and given day and only a few posts with up vote above 100. Really mostly a bunch of pathetic people since the moderate conservatives left.
Lemmy can be a bit this way but on the opposite spectrum.
I’m asking because I’ve personally found it far more hostile than Reddit (the only other platform I’ve put much time into). What I’ve mostly seen is that people downvote quickly and tend towards eliteism relative to Reddit. That said, I recognize that this could be just by instance or community, so I’m curious how others have found it.
ive found it incredibly diverse. there are many instances, and some are known for nice folks. beehaw is friendly… midwest.social has been nice to me. lemmy.world is a taunting wasps nest of nonsense… the bigger the community the more… rough… you may find it.
I’d say there are fewer hostile people, but the ones that are hostile are really hostile.
There’s definite buzz words here. Use them and get destroyed depending on what light you’re using them in.
The problem is not just that it’s hostile, but it’s also full of people that know jack shit.
On Reddit you go to r/whatever and there’s a good chance the guy answering your question is the actual godfather of whatever. Those guys didn’t make the move to Lemmy because they are hardcore into whatever, but casually into Reddit. What we got are the people that were hard core into Reddit, and casual into whatever.
So we have a bunch of blind leading the blind dilettantes getting all pissed off about shit they know fuck all about.
That’s actually a really great point that was hitting on something I felt but didn’t understand about my interactions and I think it really sums it up. It feels like every community is a general community here - explaining how technology works on reddit to someone on a general purpose sub was expected, but here you get people posting clickbaity anti-capitalist anti-tech shit in tech communities that are factually wrong and getting absurd upvotes and agreement from people who agree with the politics and that’s all.
On Reddit you go to r/whatever and there’s a good chance the guy answering your question is the actual godfather of whatever.
There was also a good chance they were another Unidan.
Who was pretty knowledgeable about biology and contributed a lot before he developed a serious case of Reddit brain.
Knowledge is low, sire.
I recommend an instance that doesn’t even have downvotes if they bother you!
I don’t have an issue with downvotes on the face of it - I came from Reddit, and found their system pretty good. The issue I have is that it seems to be used as a “disagree” button a lot more here, which discourages discussion regardless of the quality. For example, even on this post, anyone who said they’ve had a negative experience has been downvoted.
i dunno i have never used lemmy from a server that does downvotes it grants an immunity to these kinds of concerns. Just be cool and get along and everybody seems okay to me. It’s easy to block the few jerks you run into 🤷♂️. I used reddit for a long time and I find this community just peachy
I’ve been on the Internet specifically for the social aspects of it since 1990 and I honestly don’t see much difference at all between any specific site, forum, Usenet bulletin board, chat room, or service. Just the in-jokes are different and some terminology changes. People are people no matter where they are. The internet as a whole fosters a particular subset of people that even amongst their own different tribes, are fundamentally the same. A lot of outcasts and marginalized people that have no others of their particular group in reality to vibe with. I’m one of them, and I love the web because there are so many others like me here, everywhere I happen to go on it.
It’s not often I wish for awards to give on Lemmy, but I wish I could for this comment , it is exactly why I love the internet, all summed up perfectly.
At times like this I like to give out a Lemmy Lemon 🍋
Did you know that lemons aren’t natural and happened when humans crossbred citrons and sour/bitter oranges?
Life never actually gave us lemons. We gave ourselves lemons!
I think this nails it.
I find it mostly better than any other option available, but the polarization of the people here is sometimes hilariously out of control.
The cynicism is more annoying to me, but reddit had more of it, I didn’t care much there though.
It depends, largely on your opinion on and experience with Linux.
Super cool at first, but slowly becoming more and more like Reddit.
Only a matter of time before it becomes a less moderated version of Reddit.
It has the same benefits and issues as most platforms: People.
Some people need to know that they don’t actually need to post a comment. It’s okay to type something out and delete it.
Though at least it has somewhat more technically inclined groups. Lots of people way smarter than I am that I like to learn code/tech tips and tricks from.
Extremely left, fairly toxic unless you’re in a niche community. Couldn’t count how many times self-described leftists from Lemmy instances told me to unalive myself.
Lemmy is the only community I know where claims of “toxic extreme leftist” cannot easily be dismissed.
Very anti-American. I understand that our country sucks in a lot of ways but most of the hate I see is unwarranted and just people making the easy joke.
As a none American, people really need to separate the arseholes, which every country has, and the Americans.
It is the exact same as reddit, only there’s less content and comments.
The people, mods, bots, and content are all just the same. There’s even still people shilling covert adds on here. It’s just cheaper and easier for them to get to the front page of lemmy, since you only need like 20 bot/fake accounts.
I haven’t recognized any posts as covert ads here I think. Can you give an example?
The last one I remember was an “article” dealing with some web analytics stuff that all the bigger websites use. It was written to look like someone not associated with any of the different ones talked about, but there was one that was written about more favorably that happened to be cheaper than what was commonly used. The comment section had a couple accounts agreeing but it was all pretty obvious. I’ll see if I can find it.
*found it. https://lemmy.world/post/9297498
Hm not sure what to make of this. The author of the article states pretty clearly what company they are affiliated with. The comments seem to push a product called Splunk which doesn’t appear in the article at all.
I was wrong on the authors part.
People started recommending splunk in the comments to troll against the OP that submitted the link to lemmy. Also, when it popped up on lemmy at had like 15 votes and no negative votes, which is really high and odd to happen in the instance. Especially if you look at how many down votes it has on it now.
I think the community here is pretty terrible, I doubt I’ll stick around long term. There’s a reason why comment sections are dead and its because this place is full of assholes
I like it better. Sometimes you do see users being irrational, entitled/whiny or disingenuous, but it’s still way less than you’d see in Twitter or Reddit. And I’ve seen users chewing others for engaging in those three things, frankly that’s fucking great.
However I do think that there’s lots of room to improve. I’ll mention some sore points:
- On disagreement, some users immediately assuming that the others are stupid (lacking human-like reasoning) or ignorant (lacking a piece of info), instead of asking themselves “am I missing something?”.
- While witch hunters are not as bad here as in Reddit, they’re still bad. If you want to denounce people, basic reading comprehension is obligatory.
- Excessive focus on the words being used to convey something instead of what is being conveyed.
- “WAAAHHH TL;DR!@!@!1” is becoming more and more frequent. If it’s too long to read, it’s also too long to whine about its length.
