This was from Explaining Computers recent video about how Linux users shouldnt gate keep and criticise people for choices. Surprise, fuckers! Comments fill up with people telling everyone else how wrong they are…
I say “guy” in a generic sense, not a gender specific sense.
it sounds like the person hasn’t even used Linux but just did their research and found out their software doesn’t work on Linux and didn’t. Which is what everyone should be doing is evaluating if Linux will even work for them before committing to it.
If the original comment stood alone without rebuttal someone might think that Professional music recording in general isn’t possible on Linux when it clearly is possible if you are willing to adapt to the Software and Hardware that is available on Linux.
There is no “ackshully” and he didn’t call anyone a liar. He just said a statement was incorrect.
But the person in the original comment is wrong. “The software and driver support isn’t there” means that appropriate software does not exist. If they were being honest they would have said “Ableton doesn’t support Linux and I want to stick with Ableton so it doesn’t work for me.” Their inaccurate comment could discourage people who do not have a strong preference toward Ableton from trying Linux.
In fairness to your point, this screenshot alerted me that reaper is on Linux which is nice to know. I use it sometimes and hadn’t yet thought to check
Someone buys an expensive car. They say “I cant use the railway!” Are you going to tell them they’re wrong? We dont know if they live next to a railway line. They’re also heavily invested in the car and unlikely to pay out for rail tickets.
Someone buys an expensive car. They say “I cant use the railway!” Are you going to tell them they’re wrong?
Yes. Because they are.
We dont know if they live next to a railway line. They’re also heavily invested in the car and unlikely to pay out for rail tickets.
None of which indicates they “can’t use the railway”. It may not be their preferred travel method, which is fine (in the metaphorical sense), but to say they “can’t” use the railway is simply untrue.
They didn’t say “I can’t use the railway” they said “the railway doesn’t run to [place the railway definitely runs to]”
User experience with all software is pretty shit and Linux is no exception
That’s why I only use hardware
What I can’t stand about Linux is people that use Linux complain about people who use Linux.
what you telling me for? go tell them, their socials are right there.
You have the same problem as my mother who also cannot distinguish between being told she is wrong and being called a liar.
Was about to comment the same thing…
Green guy was pointing out that fl4pper was wrong about Linux not having support for professional recording software, that isn’t the same as calling them a liar.
I get what you are talking about but this is a bad example. The first post is simply incorrect. Driver issues are few and far between unless you are using hardware made by companies that specifically avoid using standards for the sake of capitalism, or software from devs that either are just as opinionated and insufferable as the Linux users that socials like to shit on or from devs that only care about every keystroke making them money.
Ableton doesn’t care about Linux because it doesn’t make enough money, the drivers part if they actually said that, is most likely an assumption or lie they made because it would end the support ticket and not cost the company anything.
People buy software like Ableton from single platform or win/Mac only devs, have a bad time and say “Linux isn’t ready” or some dumb shit like that, then people see it and think “I want to be a musician, so Linux is bad for me” or something. Meanwhile the other options in the replies work on everything, and back when I didn’t have to work all the time to barely survive at least, all of them felt significantly more intuitive than the big name industry standards. Ableton wasn’t the worst I tried but definitely a ripoff compared to a lot of other options, which also ran on Linux which is a huge selling point for us ackshully bros. Pro tools can fuck right off though.
Really though if someone in music industry is doing it for work and is locked in without choice to a software that doesn’t work on Linux, then they should just become a Mac fanboy and lock in more. Music on windows has been shit from way back and still is. A bunch of the coolest music gadgets lose partial functionality or performance on windows because m$ sucks ass at sound. Linux audio has a long history of also being shit but it has mostly left the cesspool depending on distro maintainers.
Music is such a money pit though. I like it as a hobby or pastime but for work I would be… well realistically just as depressed as my current and past lines of work.
The commenter should be more polite, this tussle would leave a bad taste on the music guy regarding Linux users
Yeah, there’s an important distinction. Just because you could use Linux doesn’t mean you can at any particular moment.
I don’t really do music production; I’m more into writing and visual arts and photography. I could do all of those things on Linux and be perfectly productive. But there’s a difference between being productive and being optimal. My current process happens to be based on software that runs on Windows. (Heck, a lot of the software I use already runs on both Windows and Linux, anyways.)
The key here being that you shouldn’t lock yourself too much to just one tool and one approach, and that actually goes both ways.
OP said “the software and driver support isn’t there”.
Someone replied and corrected them to explain the software and driver support does in fact exist.
OP replied to say that what he actually meant was that it didn’t support the specific software and driver they wanted to use.
Seems like a perfectly reasonable conversation.
Every time someone cries about hardware not being supported, you find out they didn’t care to look up compatibility. You can also ask the vendor, if you’re lost.
It’s like you buy a Diesel car and complain that it it’s annyoing because it breaks when you fill in gasoline.
Also it is very annoying when people say “I wish X was usable but it’s not”.
That’s dismissing something while at the same time posing as a supporter of the product you’re dismissing… Pretty much closing yourself to any response.
The person you’re complaining about made a perfectly reasonable and accurate post.
Correcting clearly false information isn’t “gatekeeping”, and even if he had been an asshole about it, you pretty clearly don’t know what gate keeping means.
I disagree but what do I know
EXPLAIN SETTING UP AUDIO SOFTWARE ON LINUX TO ME OR I’LL FUCKING KILL YOU! DON’T DUMB IT DOWN INTO SOME VAGUE SHIT! EXPLAIN JACK TO ME RIGHT NOW OR I’LL LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOU! WHAT THE FUCK IS
cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority -4)? WHAT THE FUCK ARE JACKD and QJACKCTL? DON’T DUMB IT DOWN OR I’LL FUCKING KILL YOUBut seriously I’ve tried getting some music-making/software synths/recording/tracking software together and every time I just bounce off of it because setting it up is just too much effort/out of my regular software wheelhouse/the documentation is like 5 decade-old forum posts with 2 replys.
Switching from Word to LibreOffice Writer was hard. Sure, I figured out documents on my own, but it still won’t print envelopes correctly (the printer doesn’t respect the margins and orientation compared to my Windows install).
I assume changing platforms and apps is harder when you use your computer to make money. I feel for the OP in the screenshot. Assuming his hardware is compatible, I’m sure he could take some time to learn a FOSS alternative but it’d be a while until he was proficient enough to make a living. The commenter was dickish but correct. Still, let’s not assume switching apps is as easy as switching gas stations.
