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    And that “tantrum” was people literally having the doors of their homes welded shut so that they couldn’t leave.

    That never happened. They welded some doors on apartment buildings so that only one entrance was available, and then screened that entrance for signs of fever. They did this because those doors did not have locking mechanisms, because usually having multiple entrances is a good thing. In the specific context of the pandemic, they wanted to track everyone.

    And it worked. There’s a reason 1.1 million people died in the US and 121k died in China.

    China’s Zero COVID policy was among the best in the world. Obviously they never accomplished Zero COVID, but they saved countless lives while we were marched to our deaths.

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      And it worked.

      Go figure, when you don’t have to concern yourself at all with what your citizens want or need, you can accomplish some incredible things at their expense.

      You know what would have been more effective? Not lying about it and covering it up for several months.

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        when you don’t have to concern yourself at all with what your citizens want or need,

        I’m pretty sure humans need to not die from COVID 🙄

        Meanwhile, my country didn’t give a shit about the fact that I wanted to be safe.

        You know what would have been more effective? Not lying about it and covering it up for several months.

        This is just a lie. They announced the discovery COVID on Jan 8, after discovery on Dec 31st. They began limiting travel and started quarantines by Jan 23rd. Hardly “several months”

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          I’m pretty sure humans need to not die from COVID 🙄

          Right, we should all just lock ourselves in cages like animals at the zoo so that no one is allowed to take any risks or enjoy their lives, because “not dying” is the only thing that matters…

          Meanwhile, my country didn’t give a shit about the fact that I wanted to be safe.

          Of course they did. They just weren’t allowed to enforce totalitarian measures to make that happen like the Chinese.

          This is just a lie.

          Nope. Pretty much everyone is in agreement about this except you so I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that you’re the one lying.

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            Nope. Pretty much everyone is in agreement about this except you so I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that you’re the one lying.

            That’s how propaganda works. They repeat a lie over and over until everyone is saying it, even when the facts are that China reported an unknown respiratory illness on Dec 31st, identified it as a novel coronavirus by Jan 8th and confirmed it Jan 14th and published their findings, and then the national emergency and quarantines started on Jan 23rd.

            These are the facts and you have been lied to by anti-China propaganda, and younger Americans aren’t falling for that shit anymore.

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              That’s how propaganda works. They repeat a lie over and over until everyone is saying it,

              Remind me how many times you’ve repeated yourself in this thread?

              Should I ignore the gov. that repeats that COVID is dangerous? Or should I ignore Trump when he repeats that it’s completely harmless over and over again? Should I ignore Xi when he repeats over and over again that he’s not a dictator?

              The notion that repetition = propaganda is completely senseless.

              You’re advocating for people to ignore everything they know and have been told their whole lives in favor of…what, conspiracy theories?

              Oh this makes a lot of sense, actually.

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                I’m advocating for people to think critically and not fall for propaganda just because “pretty much everyone is in agreement” about something. I proved that you were wrong about China, and what did you do? You moved the goal posts and attacked me for something else.

                Also, not all propaganda is bad. Government propaganda that promotes public safety is good. Government propaganda that promotes war is bad. You have to engage with propaganda critically and not just go with the flow whenever you get your marching orders on CNN.

                They’re marching us towards war with China and you’re falling for it.

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                  I’m advocating for people to think critically

                  When did you do that?

                  I proved that you were wrong about China

                  Uhhhh nope, sure didn’t do that either.

                  You have to engage with propaganda critically

                  I do, which is precisely why I don’t fall for shitty CCP propaganda, unlike yourself.

                  They’re marching us towards war with China and you’re falling for it.

                  We’ve been at war with China for a long long time.

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                    When did you do that?

                    I’ll link it again.

                    Look at any timeline of events. The CDC was alerted by China on the first of January! There’s literally no basis for this idea that China was hiding anything. You just heard that lie over and over and now you believe it, based on nothing.

                    We aren’t at war with China, but you have been so propagandized that you believe we’ve always been at war with Eastasia.