• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    The thing about the Turing Test is that it’s a metric for determining when a computer iteration qualifies as human. If you’re dealing with people who have an inability to distinguish between computer and human conversations, that’s not on you. Either the computers have gotten too good or these people just aren’t serious about drawing a line.

    • GiveMemes@jlai.lu
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      4 months ago

      I’m pretty sure the first AI that passed the turing test was made in the 60s. The turing test is an absolutely garbage metric for identifying if a computer iteration qualifies as human and is entirely dependent on the whims of the individuals that make up the test group.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        The turing test is an absolutely garbage metric for identifying if a computer iteration qualifies as human

        It’s a useful metric because it addresses the primary means by which humanity is evaluated (via evaluation by other humans). You can set up a synthetic test to determine if a response is computer generated. But this won’t measure behaviors as evaluated by humans. If the results diverge, it will be due to some number of characteristics that humans aren’t reliably picking up on.

        The original name for the Turing Test was “The Imitation Game”. And the fact that computers could pass the test as early as the 1960s only proves that humans (in this particular case, humans with very low exposure to computer behaviors) can be reliably deceived. But the consequence of this game iterating out over sixty years of practice is a hyper-sensitivity to computer output, such that end users will mistake humans for computers instead of the other way around.

        entirely dependent on the whims of the individuals that make up the test group

        Not whims, but learned observational patterns. This is what ultimately separates people from machines - patterns of behavior. If a computer and a human exhibit the exact same behavioral pattern, there’s no way to distinguish one from the other.

  • Daemon Silverstein@thelemmy.club
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    4 months ago

    Although I’m used to write long detailed replies and comments, what possibly saves me from being accused of being some LLM is the fact that English is not my main language, so I often commit concordance/typo mistakes. LLMs are too “linguistically perfect”. In a world where the Dead Internet Theory (i.e. there are few humans left in a bot-filled internet) is more and more real, human mistakes seem to be the only way to really distinguish between a bot and a human.

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      is occasionally going feral and unhinged still something that proves i’m a human on the Internet? or has my job been taken again? :(

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        We’re currently on GPT-4… You should look up what happened to GPT-1 through 3. If I remember right GPT-2 in particular was ruined by a bad feedback loop that ended up locking it into only writing the most disgusting, vile smut you could think of in response to any query. Not sure what happened to the others but frankly speaking I don’t think “feral rampancy” is off the table here.

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        For now. When robots get to feel or merely exhibit wrath, even occasionally, there will be no reason for us humans to prove our humanity anymore (because we’d be screwed at the first robotic wrath exhibition anyways 🤷‍♂️)

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      Yes, i heard a quote “LLM could pass the turing test, but eventually they won’t” due to starting to be too good at replies and humans will know its AI.

    • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      I have horrible spelling skills and am very prone to typos on phone keyboards even when I can spell, so sometimes I just leave my mistskes in there just so they know I’m real, totally not becaus I’m a lazy writer.

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      I’ve got a mouth like a sailor who stubbed his toe, mostly because I used to be a sailor who stubbed his toe a lot. Between my foul mouth and my either overuse or utter absence of fucking commas depending on how drunk I am I don’t think I’ll ever be mistaken for an LLM.

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      It’s pretty easy to make them use faux swearwords and then you can just apply a find and replace over that.

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    How do you “use cool words” while reading? You’re reading words someone else wrote? Are you reading a script you wrote out loud to others or something? Are people accusing you of being an AI to your human face?

    …was this meme made by an AI??

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    When I was young, people (read: other kids) would accuse me of being pretentious for using vocab words. I learned to dull down my speech to please them, and lost most of my vocabulary in the process. Now i talk nurmal lik ery1 else

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      Same. Or rather, people just said I spoke strangely without elaborating. Once a girl told me I spoke as if I was writing a book, which made me understand better.

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      fuck it’s so hard to resist the urge to mimic (though probably poorly) the writing style of the book i’m currently reading shakes fist at neuroplasticity

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          Oh I won’t, dude woke up a bug an tried to go to work still. If I so much as stub my toe in the morning I’ll just go back to bed and try again tomorrow. Though I do relate with how it took him a dozen pages to get out of bed.

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            I know thats not the point of the story, but that guy kinda wasted a chance of creating an army of bugs and become a real hero. Such a shame.

            On the other hand, we got a very good story full of misery:)

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    I got accused of this the other day. Some random on Steam added me because he liked my profile pic. I was bored and decided to humor him. Two sentences in and he’s like “What’s with the ChatGPT sounding responses?”.

    I honestly didn’t know how to react to that.

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    I’ve been accused of being a bot in online games due to my robust vocabulary, resistance to abbreviation and slang, as well as pedantic punctuation use. It has been happening for decades.

    Note: rarely have I been accused of a being a bot for my skill at gameplay. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.

    Now, if you wish to truly delve the depths of linguistic proclivities, one should peruse the works of Terry Pratchett, especially the Discworld novels. Any and all of his works are wonderful prose and deep storytelling.

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      That was a great read, thank you for sharing that. My apologies to the man who suffered acute psychological lacerations, I’m about to cause one more by shamelessly stealing that line for my own use (my ancestors were also colonised by the English, so it’s okay. I think?).

    • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Don’t you see the benefit of AI??? Wow this is such a good and helpful thing. This chatgpt really is a useful product. Good job!

      We exploit “cheap” labor “foreign” countries and create a hostile environment online (and possibly remote work job market) for the citizens of that country and look at all the good stuff, we got from it… Look at it… It is going to somewhere right?

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    Yeah, the biggest tragedy of technobros pushing generative AI everywhere is that as a result of that, everyone just had to adopt the stance that you can’t trust a damn thing these days.

    At least previously, this kind of disruption led to nuance. Photo manipulation has been around pretty much since the dawn of photography, so now we as a society have developed nuanced view of it over the past couple of centuries. Now, photographs used as evidence in criminal cases have different standards than photographs used in advertising - former has strict standards because it’s a serious inquiry requiring hard evidence, the latter has lax standards because the viewers understand that the photos offer an “enhanced” truth. But generative AI? It just got dropped on our lap all of sudden. We as a society can’t deal with it yet. We’re not ready.

    Sorry I just had coffee

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    I fucking swear and make up words too much to be called an AI online, but my sixth and seventh fingers on my abnormally twisted right hand have made it hard to avoid such accusations when seen in person.