I have a cousin who’s vegan and I was legit curious about this, and she literally said exactly that - “the bees can leave if they want”, but from what I understand there are other vegans who disagree
Beekeeping is a real problem, especially since it became a new hobby for some people. It’s advertised as helping to save the bees but in reality the honey bees are not in danger. They are the danger - to wild bees and other local insects.
Thats a seperate matter from animal abuse though, also I live in a region with lots of orchards (or atleast used to have) so bee keeping is just kinda a factor.
You can still get kopi luwak that’s solely from wild civets–rather than captive–but the price is astronomical. I think that the last time I looked it up–more than a decade ago–it was something like $150+/pound.
Incredible how humans always find ways of abusing more animals.
I assumed you were full of shit about this being abusive but then I looked it up and oops
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-24034029
The moment an animal is involved in the process of making money they are bred, caged and treated only as “good” as needed so they stay alive.
We’ve done the same with people… Fuck capitalism and all its sociopathic sycophants.
Indeed
humans are animals too so we’ve not really progressed that far
Why would you ever assume an animal agriculture practice wouldn’t be abusive?
The bees seem kinda chill about it. They can just kinda fuck off after all.
Not sure where the debate is this moment but from my understanding, vegans won’t eat honey.
I have a cousin who’s vegan and I was legit curious about this, and she literally said exactly that - “the bees can leave if they want”, but from what I understand there are other vegans who disagree
I won’t speak for other vegans, but my research into beekeeping and honey production turned me against the industry for the following reasons:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-problem-with-honey-bees/
Thanks for the bullet points and link, comrade.
Beekeeping is a real problem, especially since it became a new hobby for some people. It’s advertised as helping to save the bees but in reality the honey bees are not in danger. They are the danger - to wild bees and other local insects.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-27591-y
Thats a seperate matter from animal abuse though, also I live in a region with lots of orchards (or atleast used to have) so bee keeping is just kinda a factor.
Yes it’s not abuse but still a man-made problem for animals, which is why I mentioned it.
You can still get kopi luwak that’s solely from wild civets–rather than captive–but the price is astronomical. I think that the last time I looked it up–more than a decade ago–it was something like $150+/pound.