Neither newpipe nor libretube work for me anymore for a while now. Is there an alternative?
Edit: when using my vpn it is blocked. Without von it works fine
Ive been using these front ends for a while now and there are constant issues.
Ive switched to http://odysee.com
its now ad free, and Ive found that: mental outlaw, Louis Rossman, someordinarygamers, Brodie Robertson, tech lore, switched to linux, the Linux cast and loads of others are also on the platform.
What if I want to watch something other than the people who always show up at the top of the Youtube technology category page, or venture capitalist-funded yoga videos summoned to create the impression somebody is home?
Odysee is not a YouTube front end, is a hot spring for hate content and misinformation, was financially mismanaged, and was recently sold for parts to a blockchain company whose primary goal is bolstering its own blockchain
The blockchaim & finance topic doesn’t really affect me, as long as I can use it for watching videos then it works. (and I’m not helping google)
In regards to the hate content, I would rather have the ability to self censor these things (mute/block) then have the platform itself decide what I am allowed to see.
I think the main problem with allowing hate content is how it fosters harassment to those who are against their narratives.
hot spring for hate content
As with every platform, even Youtube. Bc even the most advanced algorithmic moderation has its limits (i.e. they can’t pick up steganography nor subtle/creative language; in best case scenario, YT algorithms can barely understand a Caesar ciphered text), so it’d need manual reviewing, but there’s the catch: a platform can’t have strict manual reviewing AND be free, because human moderators have their costs. When a platform gets troublesome with excessive ads or oversensitive filters (Tom Scott has an excellent video regarding the problem with “vulgarity filters” when they’re set to pick up any “forbidden” words amidist a text without considering their context; e.g. a content that says about “cumulative sum” (a mathematical and statistical concept) gets blocked because how the three initial letters form a vulgar word, and this could get worse if one’s talking about NumPy’s method), two kinds of people will tend to migrate platforms: those who simply have zero patience with intrusive ads/excessive filtering (imagine a PHP developer not being able to upload/search for a video that uses the PHP function that breaks a string into array, because the function name is “explode()” and it could be seen by filters as “violence”), and those who want to distillate their hatred. If there’s a sufficiently well-known alternative platform, both kinds of people will tend to migrate there, until hate content becomes a gigantic problem and the platform starts to employ human moderators, turning the service into a costly service that’ll either need to be paid or need to have ads (except if they somehow manage to work the services through volunteering, such as GNU). Odysee is one of a myriad of video platforms where anyone can create an account and upload any video. Odysee is not the first only containing “dangerous contents” and neither will be the last.
LightTube: https://lighttube.org
I use their mobile app and everything works like a charm.
I just tried Tubular, a NewPipe fork and it works properly.
Newpipe sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t. I think your case was just lucky.
NewPipe stops working whenever Google updates YouTube with a breaking change that NewPipe needs to integrate then, e. g. renaming parameters, changing URLs and the like.
NewPipe has been steadily working for years, with the expected interrupts as they have to play catch up with YouTube. That typically only lasts a few days, sometimes hours, though.
It’s been working for me most of the time. Tends to break when Google breaks something, but gets fixed pretty fast. For me it has been working for a couple of weeks after the last update. On TV I use SmartTube, and it has been incredibly solid.
Have you tried Grayjay?
I second that
I’m happy with Pipepipe myself, it’s on the izzyondroid F-droid repo.
Did you update them? I just tried newpipe and it works like it should?
Invidious, one good instance is https://iv.nowhere.moe/
Nope
Newpipe works for me right now?
tubular , which is a fork of newpipe , works for me . AFAIK its maintained by the person who used to maintain newpipe+sponsorblock
Are there Linux versions of this that aren’t apks?
Newpipe is working. Just make sure you are on the latest update. YouTube broke it twice in a row not long ago. But latest update has been working for weeks now. Check the github. Looks like v0.27.2 is the latest.
I’d say that your best bet is FreeTube, which got ported to Android back in 2020. I’ve only been using it for a few weeks, since I only got ahold of an Android device this month, but it has never let me down.
It’s available on the IzzyOnDroid repo, and as an APK, so you can install it with F-Droid or Obtainium (or manually).
That downloads directly from YouTube, and for that the best Android app by far is NewPipe and its forks, like Tubular.
Neither newpipe nor libretube work for me anymore for a while now.
…except NewPipe doesn’t work.
Revanced is still going strong on android
Am I missing something? Why is it being downvoted? I use it every day and it’s an alternative frontend.
For sure, because it’s fetching the content directly from the YouTube servers
Yeah, youtube breaks things all too frequently, and a lot of the time these projects can’t push out updates fast enough. A lot of invidious instances sadly don’t work (as of the last time I checked them, a few days ago), but a few usually work because they merge patches before upstream does. inv[dot]nadeko[dot]net comes to mind.
Some other good instances:
I almost thought you were that bot that changes youtube links to invidious ones, lol.
Yeah, those tend to be good (well, tux.pizza is a bit of an exception, it shows the error that the others fixed). It’s a little annoying that a lot of the invidious instances that work won’t show up when you do the “switch instance” thing on an instance that doesn’t work, but it makes a bit of sense, not wanting to get overwhelmed, or trying to not get too noticed.
In most cases it’s just too annoying of a process to get on the list. But I understand why the invidious team prefers to vet instances rather then have something like a beacon system that auto populates all consenting instances.
LibreTube uses Piped, which currently is getting blocked by YouTube. They’re working on a way to get around it.
You can follow the progress here. It seems like they might have found a way.
Grayjay
i forget is this app proprietary? i know a lot of their apps are
It’s basically source available with rights to modify and redistribute for non-commercial purposes and without removing the ability to pay for the app.
Here is the license.
It’s on fdroid so I don’t think
It’s not on F-Droid, they have their custom F-Droid repository but that doesn’t really mean anything. Anyone can put any app in a custom F-Droid repo, it doesn’t have any meaning in regard to FOSS licensing or user freedom.
Custom license that doesn’t meet the FSF’s definition. Tldr restrictions on redistribution and minor restrictions on modification. It isn’t on fdroid’s main, but they host a fdroid compatible one with a out of date version of Grayjay
