Now that it seems decided that the word “weird” should be used in a derogatory way against sociopathic narcissists in politics, I have to be careful about how i use this word.
In the recent years, I usually used it to describe someone or something that was different in an interesting and charming way. I am neurodivergent in a way that is easily hidden (not that I make coucious efforts to hide it), I would often describe myself as just “slightly weird”. I no longer want to use this word to describe myself anymore because of the above mentioned reasons.
In old literature, I’ve seen the word queer used as such, but today it doesn’t really carry that meaning anymore. Although I wouldn’t really mind if it confused people about my gender, I don’t really worry about that. 😁
Any other suggestions ro help describe myself that wouldn’t put the focus of the discussion on neurotypes?
Sorry for hijacking the post, but I don’t think people get why this usage of weird bothers some people. It’s not that we (several kinds of weird we) are not used to be called weird or similar. We grew up and found people who were like us and understood our quirkiness. Weird was the weapon of the bigot and we took that away from them. Until our friends, or community at large, started acting like the people that hurt us in the past. We could deal with the bullies and ignorant using it against us, but this new situation was unexpected.
I don’t like comparing struggles, but I’ll use examples to, maybe, make things clear. Using queer instead of weird would have bothered them the same, although I don’t believe it would have worked the same way, but more people at our side would see the issue. And the next one might be much more personal, but reading “good weird, bad weird” sounds like “good negro, bad negro” to me. You don’t get to judge or qualify me.
Also, even in a discussion that completely accepts and is understanding of people using weird as a weapon to the point of trying to find another word to be used in a positive way, there are comments that invalidate the feelings of those who are affected. If you believe words have power, why can’t you see the collateral damage?
Honestly, I’m trying to endure it until election season ends there in the USA, but I’m starting to feel the need to talk about all the wonderful things I like using the word weird just to counteract the negativity.
Apply the color spectrum into the mix.
The color red is currently used by both “extreme” political groups in the U.S., the “extreme” leftists and the extreme conservatives. It’s red for leftists because of communism and it’s red for conservatives because of the republican party. The color has now also been co-opted by the far right and has made a comeback in the same spirit of the rise of fascism, so it’s even more charged.
Does this factor into how you dress on a daily basis? Maybe, maybe not depending on the context.
Am I dressing up as a character with a lot of red? Unless they’re political, it’s probably not a statement. Is the outfit predominantly red with patches indicating a political spectrum? Then well, it’s probably with that statement in mind. Are you in an area where the color red is affiliated with local gangs? Then you might avoid the color red entirely to prevent any accidents.
With that in mind, I still feel like weird is quite contextual. Sometimes things are weird because they are unusual. Sometimes unusual is mystical, sometimes unusual is haunting.
That’s the thing about language, English somewhat moreso than others because of its nature. Words mean things based on the words surrounding them, and the meaning of a word on its own is ethereal and faceted until it has been placed in permanence within its sentence. This does not apply to all words of course, as there are obvious examples of words that are originated intentionally to be harmful, then ones that have been turned into colloquially harmful (equally harmful of course). The current case of weird is definitely the latter due to its etymology, and looking at what I’ve seen in social spaces… is the fear that weird will become a slur because it’s being used against a person in politics, and trickle down into social insult? Because weird has always been a good and bad connotation of word. You have 2 kinds of weird uncles, you have 2 kinds of weird situations, you have 2 kinds of so many weird things because weird is weird. Sometimes it’s slimy. Sometimes it’s something beautiful, but unearthly. It is inherently a word far removed from the realm of concrete definition because, true to it’s etymology, it comes from wyrd which meant fate. This seems important as fate itself is not set in permanence until the events occur. Something is weird because you aren’t sure what to expect from it until it settles.
To me, this isn’t inherently a bad thing. It is inherently a contextual thing though. If someone comes up to me and describes themselves as weird, that isn’t very weird. It’s forthcoming about someones personality, that they may be unusual. If we then pass by someone screaming at their phone over a donut they dropped because they hated their wife (idk) and I described him as “extremely weird”, I don’t think anyone except the angry man would feel insulted, nor should they, because my comment was towards the person and the circumstances.
Similarly weirdo can be a term of endearment or more derogatory, it’s all just based on context. It’s good to broaden our vocabulary though, so definitely don’t let me stop you from shifting from using other words to describe the bizarre and vagary!
Also, this isn’t to say that weird couldn’t become a word we shouldn’t say. If one day “the weirds” start getting targeted and people being genuinely afflicted in their livelihood then, well, yeah we’re going to rethink the wording. I just am not sure that a few news outlets calling a sham politician and the last few days gestating that in the socialscape of the internet is really something we should be worrying about yet. Until then, weird will still be used by children to insult other children, it will be self ascribed by weird children and lauded by other children, and it will be used to describe unusual events both before and after they happen.
Weird is a great word for many circumstances. Do not let one circumstance define it, this one especially, not until it is so damning that it really should be brought to pasture.
My comment is all context. The word is not the problem, it’s the way it’s being used.
Try it in terms of double standards. It’s an experiment that has been done. People see a man talking aggressively to a woman and some will intervene. People see a woman talking aggressively to a man and the number that intervenes drops significantly, some will cheer.
Or try it in terms of victims of violence. They see people fighting and they react as if they are in immediate danger. They feel safe with their friends, but their friends suddenly decide to start arguments on the street.
Reading what you wrote, I know you can understand the issue. We are not saying you all are wrong, just that it hurts. Can you understand why it hurts? That’s the only thing that really matters and that I want to discuss right now.
Outlandish, bizarre, unusual, strange, bizarre, unique, uncanny, queer (this one has extra connotations but has been reclaimed)
Good-weird
No need for a new word. Weird means “out of the norm” , which one can wear as a badge of honor at the same time as using it to point out that MAGA does not align with everyday Americans.
“weird” is an effective way to shut down right-wing nutjobs because they care too much about conformity, and are likely to change their behaviour if they believe they are going against the will of the herd. it undermines their whole ‘silent majority’ schtick.
all this to say, i’m autistic, i’m weird, and i don’t think that this new strategic use of the word in politics should mean you shouldn’t use it in other ways too.
Yeah, that makes sense. It’s not so much that they are labeled weird, but that they are shocked thinking they were not…
Exotic, extravagant, unconventional, unique come to mind
Eccentric Al Yankovic just doesn’t have the same ring to it.
Skibidi Yankovic
“Delightful”.
Quirky
I don’t see why it can’t be an insult for them and a compliment for me. Just like gay was for years. I’m weird and I’m proud.
Absolutely. They can’t use it back.
There is good weird and bad weird, no harm in calling someone good weird. If you really want alternatives: Quirky, Unusual, eccebtric, interesting. However and such word can also be an insult in the right context
Eccentric, unusual, unique, interesting, intriguing. IDK check any thesaurus.
Just call yourself a silly goose.
Great discussion about this topic here: https://sopuli.xyz/post/15705393
… if someone is called weird and they agree with you, they are the good weird, but if you call them weird and they get defensive/aggressive they are the bad weird …
Hehe, I’ll have a read on that thread.
