So, anybody know a good launcher to use once Nova goes offline?

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    4 months ago

    Does anyone know of a good open-source launcher? I know there’s FastDraw and Olauncher, but I wouldn’t mind having some more alternatives to try out just to find one that truly works best for me.

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    4 months ago

    PSA: Nova Launcher’s owning company sells their user data. It was a good launcher when it first came out, but it’s been nothing but a downward spiral from there.

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      4 months ago

      I’m opted out of that in my settings, it’d be quite the scandal if they were ignoring GDPR?

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        4 months ago

        I’ve amended my comment to make it more clear. I didn’t mean to imply the app sends your data to third parties, only that the company who owns it profits off of third party information brokering. Where that information comes from is beside the point in my opinion.

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      4 months ago

      But, but, they assured us that that wasn’t going to happen? You mean they lied??

      JFC, what a fall from grace for Nova. Sad to see.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      I’ve been using Nova for ages, probably back from the KitKat days on a Samsung phone running Touchwiz, i.e. when everything from the vendor side was crap.

      I just switched back to my Moto G5’s stock launcher. Honestly, it already does everything I did with Nova. It supports theming, adaptive icons, you can configure the density of its grid, etc. So I uninstalled Nova. Fuck it.

      Realistically I think most stock launchers are probably perfectly adequate for everything normal users want to do these days.

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        4 months ago

        I used to use Total launcher to make the most convoluted home screen possible that literally nobody but me knew how to use. Like several circles you swiped on in different directions to open folders, absolutely no labels, etc. Now I just use the stock pixel one lol

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          4 months ago

          I miss swiping on icons. I used it for opening folders. Like Firefox would have all my most used browsers like Chromium Firefox Focus, and Firefox Nightly. My Messages app would have all my messaging apps. Camera had Photos, and photo editing apps. I barely had to go to the drawer.

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            4 months ago

            Likewise. I use Total, and I have 12 folders on my homescreen, each of which can be swiped up, down, left or right to open specific apps or run specific actions. So, 48 options without ever leaving the home screen :-)

            I very rarely have to even open a folder, let alone the app drawer (in fact Total doesn’t really even seem to have a built in app drawer, although it exists somewhere in the background)

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    4 months ago

    Dammit lol that’s the one I picked to use

    Maybe it will keep working unchanged for a while

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    4 months ago

    I switched to Lawnchair a while back (android 14 broke folders in nova for me). It’s not got the same depth of customisation, but ive found it pretty good alternative. And so far seems quick and reliable.

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    4 months ago

    I used Nova for years. When they got bought out I switched to a bunch of different launchers. My favorite turned out to be Kvaesitso.

    It was weird for me at first because having apps on the main screen was something I’ve grown acustomed to. You can have a row if you want though. There is an option. After using it for a few weeks, I realized their layout works best for me.

    Let me know if there are other launchers you recommend. I appreciate it.

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      4 months ago

      I tried to like Kvaezitso, and I loved some of the features, but it’s too strict in others that I didn’t like. I want Lawnchair and Kvaezitso to make love and have a perfect baby.

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    4 months ago

    Why do you need a new launcher? You’re good to go for several years until (if) Android implements some completely new feature. Right now Nova has pretty much everything.

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    4 months ago

    When I found out how scummy they were with user data I moved to KISS launcher. It took a few days to get used to but I’m very happy with it now.

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      4 months ago

      KISS launcher is exactly what I was looking for in a launcher. 5 always used apps at the bottom calendar and weather widgets on the home screen, search for everything else. It seems like it used to have a lot of problems with custom icons but lately it’s been pretty much perfect.

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        3 months ago

        I’ve been using KISS for a couple years now very successfully and I love it.

        Should you decide to stick with it, here’s two tiny tips:

        • Should the custom icons ever actually give you trouble, most issues can be fixed by going to the KISS Launcher options → Advanced → Restart KISS. It will reload all items from scratch.
        • You can actually have a couple more ‘quick access’ apps set by going to KISS Launcher options → User experience → Gestures and defining ‘Launch…’ actions. For example, I launch my messaging app with a right swipe, my e-mails with a left swipe and note-taking with a long hold anywhere on the launcher.
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    4 months ago

    Been using KISS over at F-droid for a few years now after moving on from Nova Launcher. It isn’t for everyone but it isn’t run by goons.

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      4 months ago

      I used KISS for a while and found mlauncher, which is similar in concept, to work better for me. I had to force KISS to restart frequently enough where it became a problem.

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      4 months ago

      Tried it but it has a few things I don’t like, minor things but the most important is the apps drawer as list

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          4 months ago

          I’m not used to it, if I need something in the middle/end, I have to scroll to the bottom. I know it has letters but I’m not used to it so I keep forgetting

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    4 months ago

    I still use version 7 of Nova, it’s the only launcher in the market that knows how to handle icons. Any other is frankly a disaster, they can’t make them look good at all.

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    4 months ago

    I have tried Kvaesito, Niagara, Nova, Kiss and Lawnchair(and forks), personally I prefer Lawnchair because it it the most standard regarding workflow and has all if not most features one would want in a launcher. Plus the fact it is fully FOSS and supports Arcticons. If you have a small number of apps you typically launch then Kiss or Niagara(Paid Pro version recommended) would work nicely.

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    4 months ago

    Are there any launchers that have Nova’s 2 best features?

    1. Swipe-to-open folders (with tap to open the first item in the folder)
    2. Set any icon you want as an app icon?

    I’ve tried Lawnchair and it was missing these 2 features. I will switch to any launcher that supports these!

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      4 months ago

      Total Launcher does both of those. It’s massively customisable, although a bit daunting-looking in places. I love it though.

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      4 months ago

      Omg thanks for asking this, and thanks to the people that responded. I sincerely went through other alternatives around 5 years ago, and none of them were close to Nova in terms of folder customisation. I’m glad the landscape had changed quite a bit!

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      4 months ago

      I’ve been using Neo Launcher for a while as a Nova replacement and it’s pretty good. Both of those features are included as well as things like shortcut actions when you double tap or swipe on the home screen.

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    4 months ago

    After I switched to gesture based navigation, I haven’t found a third party launcher that works seamlessly with it.

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    4 months ago

    Its insane that custom launchers are even needed. I gave the base Samsung version a try and it wont even let me move the app drawer button, its glued to the bottom right. I’d expect an android to let me customize more than windows. Never understood the big tech companies need for this much control. Some brand manager will have a heartattack if I change an app icon, a basic feature in any version of Windows.

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      4 months ago

      They keep things locked down for the 50% of the population with below average intelligence. It makes things easier to trouble shoot when you can’t move the important stuff. Also that group is usually the loudest complainers when they can’t find something, or something goes wrong.

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        4 months ago

        I lament Nova’s demise, too…

        I think the reason that the tech companies won’t allow us to have our devices our own way ( Microsoft was doing this decades ago ), is “religious”/ideological, not practical:

        I think they “need” to keep everybody permanently in a headlock, with our heads all twisted, because only if we are all in permanent learned-helplessness, only then can they automatically get away with everything they intend to be getting away with, in our world.

        IOW, our autonomy violates their totalitarian religion, see?

        It’s the same as how ANY spirituality grates on Dawkins’ blood: he wants it all gutted/butchered/destroyed, & suicides of ones he destroyed are no problem for him, & no alternative ever can have any validity to him.

        Totalitarianism, whether traditionally “religious”, or in any other ideology/prejudice/religion, is the same: it HATES violation of its homogenous dominion.

        ( comically: homophobic-religions want a homogenous het humankind, with no violation of that homogeneity. The existence of homosexuals is too heterogenous for them )

        Autonomy is something that totalitarian supremacism ideology “needs” to obliterate from the whole world.

        Consistently.

        It seems to be a damn-good diagnostic for it, even!

        _ /\ _

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      4 months ago

      OnePlus does it pretty well. I just love the ability to have separate actions for swiping an app icon so I use nova

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    4 months ago

    Man I am really struggling to find a replacement launcher that works for foldables. Neo and Total have scaling issues that make icons giant

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      4 months ago

      Microsoft launcher is super underrated IMO. Lots of customization. I use it for my foldable, but it’s a bit hit or miss sometimes (scaling of folders sometimes gets messed up going from open to closed).

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        3 months ago

        Seems to have a lot of features I like so far

        I can’t seem to add more than two apps to a folder, is that a known bug?

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          3 months ago

          It’s not a known bug, could you provide more details? I just tried creating a home screen folder with 4 apps, and am able to.

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            3 months ago

            Yeah sorry lol, I was not clear.
            When I go to add a third app it just goes behind the folder. Tried a dozen times with different apps and only ever takes 2 per folder.

            Just tried again and it let me do 4! Then the 5th just goes into its own folder and cant be added.

            Here is a clip showing it happening

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              3 months ago

              Thank you so much! A video speaks a million words and yours helped me to instantly identify what’s causing this.

              What happens is that when you remove apps from a folder until one is left, that app remains as a folder, and currently this launcher doesn’t allow you to drag one folder over another.

              A workaround is to tap that “folder” and drag that last app out from its “folder”, into the other folder you want it to be in.

              A fix for this is planned, thanks for highlighting this confusing behaviour ;)

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      4 months ago

      I’ve been using Niagara launcher and it works great. It’s a different launcher “workflow” though.