Not sure how long this has been a thing but I was surprised to see that you cannot view the content without either agreeing to all or paying to reject.
Just don’t read The Mirror. Generally not worth the effort of moving your eyes from one word to the next.
Only answer is to ban tracking cookies
Get yourself the Consent-o-Matic browser extension and watch these “we and our 8000 partners (hungrily) value your privacy” banners disappear.
If you stumble upon a web site that Consent-o-Matic does not handle, you can simply click the extension, click “Submit for Review”, and the devs will shortly add support for that site.
I have this but it’s no good for consent-or-pay, unfortunately.
Oof! I definitely can raise an Enhancement request in their GitHub to see if they can take on adding that functionality.
If anyone can get me the exact link of whatever OP experienced, I can log it there.
if you need a consent-or-pay example, just open La Repubblica’s homepage. You will be prompted with the “accept all cookies or pay” prompt as soon as you open the site. Pretty standard practice for most Italian online newspapers, sadly
Even UBO doesn’t work here. Zapping the element, just pops it back up. Crazy
E: disabling js does seem to allow access to the site and articles, though you can’t interact with anything (comments and such).
uBlock Origin has two cookie filters that are disabled by default. I enabled that and ditched the consent-o-matic extension
But does that auto accept cookies like many of these other anti cookie banner extensions?
You can customize how the extension handles cookie banners. See an example of current settings on most updated extension at time of this comment:
How can you pay to block cookies if they would need a cookie to remember that you paid?
Lmao even if you pay, you still see ads, they just won’t track you. What an insane monetization scheme
“But if we don’t track you, we lose all the money we’d have made selling your data to Oxford Analytics so they can help Putin convince your uncle to vote for far-right candidates?!?”
Actually they still track you, they just don’t share the information with advertisers. This is hte “pay or ok” model of blackmailing users to accept cookies and tracking. More or less what Facebook did last year, but Facebook charged a price tag that was higher than what Netflix costs! In the EU, this is not what was intended, and is currently being redefined
https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2024/edpb-consent-or-pay-models-should-offer-real-choice_en
Sadly, newspapers are not considered “platforms”. A platform is a site that publishes user generated content, so lemmy or facebook. And not all platforms are large platforms too.
So while this is a good first step, it doesn’t cover all online services.
My bad. I assumed that all websites were platforms.
Absolutely wild that they’re still allowed to call this “consent”
If we imagine the idea of sexual consent being given in the same circumstances, it sounds a lot like a fucking crime.
“Either you consent to having sex with me right now or you pay me a subscription fee in order to not consent”
I like this analogy; it’s provocative and it made me think about the issue for longer than I would have otherwise.
However, after some thought, I don’t think it aligns perfectly since the user can simply choose not to read the article, so there’s an option where they don’t get fucked.
In the same vein, I think we could make a better analogy to sexting. You meet someone, seem to hit it off, and when the texts and pictures get a little spicy, they hit you with a, “you can pay me now and I will keep all of this in my private spank-bank, otherwise I’m going to share our entire relationship with a group chat I’m in with 1200+ people”
I think this is a bit stronger because it hits on a few notes where the hook-up analogy falls short: sharing of sensitive information, extortion in exchange for gratification, and the potential for an ongoing relationship.
Idk, what do you think?
I see where you’re coming from, but my understanding is that the tracking cookies are already on your machine when the banner is presented, so they’ve already put in the proverbial tip.
Lmfao the proverbial tip. OK you got me there 😂
Just the tip 😏
At least one German outlet has been shown to still track you after paying. Just a bit less. So they use a rubber with a few holes poked in.
the user can simply choose not to read the article, so there’s an option where they don’t get fucked.
We are rapidly nearing a point where you can’t read online news from any major (ergo “widely considered somewhat credible”) source without one of those schemes. So I’d argue that the alternative is to just not get access to online news, and that may be considered too much pressure to still consider consent as voluntary.
“News” outlet? Hardly. The mirror is basically Russian propaganda.
Well ok, they have no GDPR.
It’s standard practice in France too. This is not forbidden by RGPD.
you Frenchies and your fucked up transposed acronyms
Shut the fuck up or I’ll go OTAN on your ass.
Careful, your 5.56 OTAN bullets might shoot backwards.
I don’t think they repealed it. And besides, it applies to EU citizens regardless.
German news outlets all do it. The data protection agencies have sadly so far ruled it’s ok (there are still ongoing lawsuits afaik).
Every outlet in Italy as well.
Refer them to the EU. EU is going after Meta for charging for an ad-free plan. Oh, right. The EU only goes after USA corporations and deliberately wrote their rules to exclude companies like Spotify. Oh wait, there was Brexit, so it doesn’t matter anyway. Brits voted themselves right to fucking shit. Kinda like what we might do in a few months.
Vote. The stupid people definitely will, so it’s necessary to combat them.
And fuck abstaining on the basis of we only have two bad choices, I want a true leftist candidate. I would too, but by abstaining you are basically taking the bullshit liberal position of “I can’t tell the difference between these two things”
“News outlet” might be the most generous interpretation I’ve ever seen.
uBlock origin, can access the page fine, without showing any promts. I have more or less all filters turned on though (cookie popups, social media trackers etc)
Good to know. Hopefully they don’t find a way to negate uBlock
For those unaware, NoScript plugin helps with this.
I’ve seen this on a few sites. They aren’t even allowed to make rejecting cookies more difficult than accepting them but right now the legal people are trying to educate before they starting enforcing these rules. I expect the lawyers at the Mirror know that this is illegal but think they can get away with it.
All those things like having to “customise” your cookies to turn them all off, and “legitimate interest” is all illegal under the rules but they’re trying their luck.
It’s a litmus test for me. Just tells me not to use their site.
I NEED COOKIE 🍪 💉💪
I don’t like to complain about things that are easily fixed. It seems like everything on social media is to illicit reaction now instead of response.
Install UBlock Origin and turn on all the filters. That has worked for years.
Onky with Firefox now. Since manifesto v3 says fuck you on chrome based browsers
Daily mail does it as well. Cancer. But not hard to circumvent with Firefox and some extensions.
