Reading comments in different communities, I noticed that users hardly leave smilies. Why is that?
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For me emoticons were something that started when all of the boomers came to Facebook. Floods and floods of useless emojis left and right. So now I feel weird using them, like I’m cheapening the platform while also acting like the people that ruined Facebook for me
Are emojis considered emoticons? Call me old but I think this is an emoticon ;-) and this is an emoji 😉
Agreed! Although the little image things on message boards like phpBB, ProBoards and Invision were also emoticons, even though they were basically early onset emojis
I have a negative attitude to standard emoticons built into Android and iOS. They don’t look good, they’re too many.
I’m interested to know who uses emoticons depicting, for example, player rewind icons or rectangular shapes. Are there people who use these emoticons at least once a year?
I make apps and I use them for prototyping buttons and stuff… So yeah, pretty often.
Hmm… Then wouldn’t it be logical on the part of mobile OS developers to make the extended set of emoticons hidden by default and enabled through system settings? Or make an extended set of smileys as an app that can be installed through the app directory?
Maybe! The MacOS emoji picker actually does this: You can choose which categories to include or omit, and set favorites… And not all of them are enabled by default. No reason phone keyboards couldn’t do the same thing. MacOS calls most of what we’d consider “emojis” to be one category though, lol… So that wouldn’t actually solve the problem. But it’s possible.
Installing them like an app wouldn’t really be a thing though-- Emojis are part of Unicode, which means they’re essentially text characters. You wouldn’t want to omit those from the system entirely, because if they appear in text, you still want to be able to render them. Kind of like… You might not need (or want) a convenient way to write an “é,” but it’d be annoying if somebody wrote “the appetizers were good, but the entrée was just okay” and you saw “entr�e” because you didn’t have the right app installed.
Personally, I’d rather have access to everything and just use search to find the one I want, but it might be nice to have the option to omit categories that you aren’t interested in.
Emoticons are old internet. Emojis are boomer, normie, and corpo friendly translations.
Who is booing this man? He is completely correct
second a few other comments, a lot of people conflating emoticons and emojis
- emoticon: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- emoji: 🤷
- emoticon: =>^.^<=
- emoji: 🐱
I propose that we call the symbols in both emoticons and emoji “emos”.
And we call emos, goths
I wonder what happened to all the emo girls
no, no … emo and goth are different, goths have fashion sense …
Very true. Also, I believe you forgot to escape the 2nd ^ symbol? I think it should look like this:
=>\^.\^<==>^.^<=
It’s understandable. Back in the old old days, these 😱 were often called emoticons. The reason was that the chat software that people used to automatically replaced ;-) by 😉. The menu was the same and the name of this menu was emoticon.
One of the most famous example of this is MSN Messenger.
People keep the habit to call them emoticons.
In the old old days, emojis didn’t exist yet, until NTT DoCoMo created them for mobile phones. Emoticons predate them.
Personally I feel like if I need to use one, then I’ve done a poor job of writing.
I guess the other component is that I write a lot at work (I’m an engineering manager) and emoticons aren’t really appropriate for that kind of communication, so I’m not in the habit of using them.
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Such an emoji can be sent to a customer when all deadlines have passed.
What kind of engineering manager isn’t using a dramatic shrug emoji or emoticon dozens of times every day?!
Don’t tell me your team has their shit together.
I prefer to walk to their desks and make the expressions and gestures in person.
😂 what!? I’ve worked with 11 engineering managers and they’ve all used emojis. You’re either not in software or you work for a bank/insurance.
Not sure what to tell you, I’m the senior manager for software engineering in a company that makes rocket engines, solid rocket motors, and space electrical power systems. I’ve been working there for 38 years and emojis are pretty rare.
Exactly, not in software as in, not working for a software company.
I did start by saying I was an engineering manager, so I thought that part was a given
Sorry! I’ve only heard that title used in the context of software engineering gigs.
Hmmm, maybe we have a semantic issue. That’s literally my title: Senior Manager, Software Engineering. But it’s a heavily engineering company, not a heavily software company.
Yeah, makes perfect sense!
You’re just older. Has nothing to do with being an engineering manager.
I also work with space electrical power systems. That was an odd thing to see in the wild lol
My hypothesis: Lemmy has an older userbase, and in general older people feel less of a need to express their emotions. They’re busier discussing the topic than highlighting their attitude towards it.
Perhaps cultural reinforcement plays a role, too. As emoticons and emojis are less used, they feel more out of place, so people who’d use them elsewhere avoid them here.
I only use emoticons to clarify an emotional message. On forums, I’m more interested in sharing and discussing ideas and opinions. Emoticon spam makes me sick with worthless cringe.
My 80 old father-in-law spams emoticons like he’s a 15 year old girl. Cringe-worthy and hillarious at the same time 😂
I use emojis only because my phone suggests them at the end of sentences 🙃
No idea, here’s a sword
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here’s a rocket ship 8=======D~~~
A lot of us came from reddit where it was considered taboo to use emojis.
Also Reddit didn’t support emojis for a long time. But yeah, it was considered very “normie” (hate that term but applicable)
Wow, I didn’t know that. You don’t know the reason?
You looked like you were fresh off the bus from Facebook.
I’m coming from the old ages of internet where we didn’t have them. I’m fine with them, but I’m too old to use them comfortably.
It’s fine. Use them if you like, but I don’t really see the value in systems such as Discord where you pay money to have special emojis and so on…
Scott E. Fahlman proposed using :-) and :-( to mark jokes and not-jokes respectively in internet posts in 1982, and they (and lots of variations) have been in use ever since. IBM’s Codepage 437 character set (as used by the original PC) had two dedicated smiley characters even before that.
There was no golden age of the internet where there were no emoticons.Old internet days you went to a site to make them for you and you copy pasted them into some stupid AOL/ICQ chat , and then later on for me irc. Now they are part of a lot of clients UI. (⌐■_■)
I’m coming from the old ages of internet where we didn’t have them.
You’re talking about emojis. OP is talking about emoticons. They are not the same. Emoji = 🙂, emoticon = :)
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Well, personally, I grew up with more primitive emoticons and usually just eschew including smiles entirely. I’ll use them with friends but I tend to communicate more formally in public forums.
Emojis really don’t have a use outside of shitpost communities. I very rarely will use them here on Lemmy
Don’t generally see a reason to
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I use this emoji so much in my team chat instead of a thumbs up lol
Its just the group we have. I use basic ones sometimes. But I also come from a time before emoji existed.
I still call them emoticons on occasion
I still have my emoticon copy/paste text file from the ancient times.
I still test out messaging apps by using this fella
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I’d be interested to see which ones you have on that file
Edit: Lemmy apparently doesn’t like the rabbit’s formatting
either escape the backslash or embed the whole thing in a code block
(\_/) (0.0) (> <)and Markdown insists on breaking anything with a less-than character (considering the preview shows correctly but then you hit “Save”) …
It should format properly if you use a code block. This is the bunny I always used to use
(\ /) (^.^ ) (")(")oYou can escape formatting by adding a backslash in front.
this is a quote
> this is an escaped quote
The rabbit’s left ear looks like it should be a backslash (\_/)
Backslash is an escape character used in formatting, so if you want to actually display a backslash you need to use two (\\_/)
Oh the file itself turned out to be garbage because it was a text file. So it was terrible at preserving spacing and all that. I can upload it when I get home if you want nostalgia more than usability lol I probably used it for a month out of stubbornness before just finding a website that hosts emoticons.
Voyager has them
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Oh my god, I’d never tried tapping this button before.
[ಥ_ಥ] oh gah
What button is it? When I type a comment on mobile Voyager I only see link, bold, italic, and quote buttons. It doesn’t seem like I can swipe to find more buttons either.
There’s a 3-dot options button next to “quote” that has “Text Faces”.
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Not on mine 😭 Because I’m on the ios app maybe?
you dont even have a pfp
Back in my day we called them avatars, youngster!
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Here, you dropped this: \
I’m not sure why it does that. The slash was definitely in there.
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Edit: other people are apparently having this issue
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I’m gonna start promoting the one w the slightly wonky face
That’s markdown, baby!
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