I’ve been trying Lemmy for a little while and wasn’t sure how to feel about it.
Today, I wanted to start blocking the most high-censorship instances until I could find a fully zero-censorship instance and simply block all the ones with censorship. Filter bots, not people.
When I looked into it further, I found out there are no zero-censorship instances, because Lemmy relies on a broken “federation” system where each instance is supposed to be able to fetch posts from other instances, but it’s never been finished to reach a fully working state. Lemmy’s official docs say you can’t even do federation over Tor at all. This means it uses DNS, so it won’t actually allow Lemmy instances to fetch posts from each other freely, it just gets blocked instantly and easily, every time the authorities feel like blocking anything.
So you can only ever have the “average joe lemmy” and “average joe reddit” with everything approved by the authorities, and then “tor copies of lemmy” and “tor copies of reddit” where you have free speech but you can only reach other nerds.
People seem to think Lemmy is different because this weird censorship fetish is extremely popular and most of you are happy to see bans happen to certain people, not just bots, so a small Lemmy that censors certain people feels fundamentally different from a big reddit that censors more people. But it’s the exact same thing, it’s reddit.
When reddit was smaller, you could say basically anything you wanted there, they just wouldn’t let it reach the main audience. Then it got too big, and any tiny part of the audience you could reach would be too big, so they won’t let you talk at all.
Lemmy is now the small part of reddit where you can say whatever you want, separated from the main audience, until too much growth happens and you have to move again.
It’s not actually a solution to reddit. It’s not designed to be different, it’s designed to match the past today and then match reddit’s present tomorrow, while being part of a system that’s about the same in past, present, and future.
Last year, this year, and next year, you’re posting somewhere it won’t be seen by many people, and the system that charges people for ambulance rides is getting another year of ambulance ride revenue, facing no organized resistance. There’s no difference here.
Lemmy urgently needs federation between onion service instances and DNS addresses in order to actually do what most users seem to wish it would do: allow discussion outside what the corporate authorities allow, while outgrowing reddit & helping undo the damage social media has done to human communication.
You don’t really want zero censorship.
Not sure what you mean. I really want a dev to make a version of Lemmy with Tor federation so we can have a zero-censorship Lemmy cluster. That is definitely true, not false.
The meaning is closer to “it would not be in your best interest, and you could never hold yourself to it” than “you do not desire it in the abstract”
Depending on how literal you are with “let people send ANYTHING over tor 🐒🔨😃🤜🤛😀💰” I’m downright uncomfortable with this whole concept
Incorrect. It would really be in my best interest. I am holding myself to that right now, by reiterating it in this reply.
What are you actually trying to say? What’s your train of thought here? Just cryptic gaslighting, right?
Not that long ago, after the first big exodus from Reddit to Lemmy, there was a group that decided to mess with Lemmy any way they could.
They spent weeks DDoS-ing it and when that failed to get a reaction there were sudden posts of extreme gore and very explicit child pornography across the front page.
Free speech is nice in theory, but for true anarchist style freedom of speech to exist we would have to tolerate the intolerable.
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No, you would have to stop.
If you think raping and bombing people is tolerable, but showing you pictures of it isn’t, you are intolerable to me - and I am absolutely the one who’s right, in that conflict.
If you think raping and bombing people is worse than showing you pictures of it, stop fucking around with bullshit and try tolerating the tolerable while not tolerating the intolerable.
If most of the human population is into rape and bombing, wipe out most of the human population until the front page is full of better posts, don’t just shield yourself from posts and call it “not tolerating the intolerable”
If it’s only a minority of the human population, outvote them to fill the front page with better posts
Use science and modern technology to make the world a better place instead of trying to deny the science, ruin the technology, and end the world
Fundamentally, just stop being fucking dishonest
I think you need to take your meds.
Weak gaslighting attempt, glowie. I just smoke weed. Stop being fucking dishonest
found the nazi, fuck off back to 4chan
You’re an actual psycho
I didn’t ask.
While we’ve got you on the line, what is the appeal of a platform like Nostril? Is it Bluesky for crypto nonces?
You ignored my questions, but I’ll answer yours before asking again.
You can’t be banned from nostr and you’re not tethered to a single “instance” (and Tor is supported a little better). As for “nostril,” I bet spelling things wrong on purpose goes hard af when you have 62 IQ.
Now, what I asked before:
What were you trying to say before? What was that train of thought? Just cryptic gaslighting, right?
Go ask the wind, my guess is lots of people ignore your hard-hitting interview questions
Again, this must go hard af when you have 62 IQ