• Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de
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    My dacia spring has it exactly like that 😁

    You feel how you physically move the airways by rotating the wheel where you choose the air coming out

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    This works well and it’s not a hill I’ll defend but automatic control of temperature is better when it’s done well. In the UK we have a culture of driving cars with manual transmission and I’ve never understood it when automatic transmissions exist and are pretty good. People wanna feel like they are in control of stuff.

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      Not sure about the UK, but I know Germany likes manuals because they last longer when you have a lot of hills and mountains.

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      Well, as a kid I thought by the time I’ll do my driver’s license there will be no more manual transmissions around.

      Turns out, automatic is just still way more expensive to buy AND, as I recently learned, crazy expensive in maintenance.

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    3 days ago

    That has 5 moving parts, while a touchscreen has none. It’s much easier and cheaper for the manufacturer to install the touchscreen. But instead of passing the savings to you, they probably keep it or pass it on to investors.

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      The nobs are cheaper, because you don’t need a motor changing the airflow, you just use the power of the human rotating the nob to adjust the airflow to go to the right spot

      And you don’t need a cpu nor gpu

      Waaay cheaper…

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      But the touch screen comes with a price you pay for the UI development which is not a small amount. So while installing it might be cheaper, in the end I would argue it’s more expensive.

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      Exactly.

      Each of those knobs needs an injection mould, each switch behind it a supply chain. Iterating on digital design is far cheaper as well.

      It’s far cheaper to use what are effectively 10 year old tablets in the cheaper cars. Since LCDs are being mass manufactured for other things that likely get a nice economy of scale.

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    It’s -5C/23F outside, you hop in the car, winter boots and thermal layers. Your climate control’s lowest setting is 16C/61F. You have two options: personal sweaty sauna or drive in your winter jacket with frozen hands.

    Other options: blast heat with windows down. Full AC, just get it over with.

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      I always just freeze while the car warms up. Driving with a jacket on is an absolute no-go. I see so many people do it and I don’t understand how, it’s restrictive and you will inevitably start to bake when the sun hits you.

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        It’s difficult to take thermals(wool under-layers) off/on for a regular car ride. Just let me set temps down to 5C or something even if the AC couldn’t achieve that in California.

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    If you truly believe this, replace your home thermostat with the same controls. Live with that shit for awhile.

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    I long for the days it was two horizontal sliders. Cold to left, slide to the right the warmer you wanted. Low to the left, slight to the right for high fan. Now it’s all this digital horse shit and it takes years of me being bored at red lights to be motivated to explore all the menu drudgery on the console. Now it all has fucking wifi and tracker nonsense too.

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      Yeah like, all I wish my car had was Bluetooth capabilities but besides that I love my older car.

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        Swap the radio its pretty easy and only costs like $50. I got an old Japanese import that has Bluetooth that connects to my phone as I enter the car. Its also got USB to play music from and charge from.

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          Good call, I definitely had the thought but never pulled the trigger on it because I never found a specific replacement that I liked. I’ll have to look into it again when I can afford it!

          I was considering upgrading to something with a screen and maybe gps, but couldn’t lock a model down.

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      We had to buy a new (used 2022) car after we ran out old car into the ground. The touch screen controls temperatures. There wasn’t a single variant of the car that didn’t have a giant ass touch screen. It makes me really uncomfortable when the screen no longer works.

      There’s also some other things that piss me off.

      But Some of the pros (and why we accepted that trade off):

      • all wheel drive
      • fancy sensors when someone is in my blindside
      • it opens when it senses the key is nearby.
      • heated seats with controls. (Used to bring hot packs because it gets cold here)
      • cameras for the rear
      • it does that cool thing where it breaks if it senses you might collide. I hated it at first but I’m old now and it saved me once from collision.

      Either way, fuck cars and if public transportation was better here, id use that.

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        I would be really uncomfortable with a car where I had to touch a giant’s ass to make it go.