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    Democracy does not work with violence.

    Tell that to every civil rights leader martyred by your so-called ‘democracy’ you comfortable-assed settler

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      Eh, they are Danish. Settler is the wrong term for them if you are trying to make out a continuity from classical colonialism to neo colonialism, as Denmark did not really have colonies in the classical sense (with one minor notable exception and the domination of Norway through its personal union for 450 years).

      Denmark’s history as a thriving social democracy in the modern era also makes it less of a perpetrator of the violence spread by modern bourgeoisie democracies than what your comment implies, in my opinion.

      Lumping every Western nation together into some imperial core makes it harder to study the material conditions of neo colonialism.

      As an example of the point I am trying to make of the importance of studying the material conditions of the global north as well: Denmark-Norway was the first European country to abolish the transatlantic slave trade. The reason for it is obvious, they did not really have colonies to speak of on their own.

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        Like I give the first, second, or third fuck? Where they’re from doesn’t change my people’s history, or that cracker’s place within it. I genuinely see the vast majority of you euros the same, because where they’re from doesn’t change the fact that they still talk the exact same way the actual settlers that still devil my people do.

        That, “oh, this isn’t like us”, “oh, you need to condemn this violence even though violence is our profit”, “oh, this isn’t how politics works” and all that other happy cracker horseshit; this tells me white supremacy and habitus has already infected the Nordics-- which were never friends to the Black nation, regardless of who ended their trade in flesh when.

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          If you cannot distinguish between friend and enemy, that is a problem for you. Capitalists are exploiting you and, surprise, they are exploiting us as well. No shit European history is bad, but do you not think the big whigs fucking shafted those they could in Europe as well? Consider the Sápmi people for instance. They are not your enemy, neither historical nor current even though you might reject all of their culture and history and just call them “euros” because nowadays they have been forcefully assimilated into Nordic culture.

          The same is true, not only for the marginalized cultures, but also for the proletariat classes of all European countries that talk in the manner of your oppressors. If you think the issues of capitalism are of a cultural or national character, you are falling for capitalist propaganda.

          I never said anything in the likes of what you put in quotes. I said that making a continuity between classical colonialism and neo colonialism that anyone can take seriously has to consider the historical materialist conditions. From what you write it seems like you are just equating classical and neo colonial economic exploitation and have no knowledge of who and what actually makes it happen, ultimately doing yourself a disservice.

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            I know who my enemy is. It’s any paternalist white from any nation that isn’t mine; any paternalist white who fixes their face to try and dictate who my enemies SHOULD be when I know for a fact there’s still hella blood on their hands. You do yourself a disservice continuing to run your misbegotten mouth to someone who clearly doesn’t have the time or patience for it. 'Cause I’d bet my left eye you aren’t Sápmi; but just like an Amerikan cracker, you’ll lift their name and their struggle to try and cudgel me and mine with it.

            And while I’m thinking about it, you may not be saying the things in quotes, but you’re sure as shit bearing the water of a cracker who is! You want me to believe you’re on the level? Tell your compatriots to start fucking acting like it.

            You are no ally. Cease your correspondence. Death to the West.

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              Your lack of patience I inferred from your lack of understanding of theory, which I attribute to a lack of reading. If you could stop thinking in terms of pejoratives for a minute, I would ask you to consider that maybe neo colonialism is the cooperation of the bourgeoisie classes of both the global south and the global north, in an effort that does indeed extract surplus value from the global south to the north.

              I am no ally of yours though, because your bias is not going to change anything, even if you were successful, except the color of the face of capitalism.